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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

It’s just a question of how bad we’ll have it at this point.

[-] davesmith@feddit.uk 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There are always best and worst case scenarios.

We are currently comprehensively losing the battle for 3C@2100 (which comes with increasingly harmful-to-devastating impacts in the intervening years and decades: future climate refugees will make the current not-far-off-a-London a decade seem like a picnic. A situation fascists will no doubt exploit).

It looks like the only way to prevent 4C plus and, a future Earth only described in science fiction, is mass civil disobedience.

But the UK government appears to be the worst in any civilised country in terms of squashing dissent, and most of the public appears to be more concerned with not being delayed on their commutes.

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STOP TELLING MY POOR ASS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS ON ME

every bit of conservation i do in my life is undone by a billionaire in a weekend. I am done being blamed for it and having the responsibility thrown at my feet. At this point the best way any one of us can do something meaningful is if we all pull a Luigi. But these memes and articles that put ask the climate change responsibility on the lower classes are nothing more than billionaire propaganda

[-] icecreamtaco@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We are all drops of water that make up an ocean. Billionaires are important too but it's also the fault of lazy people who put old TVs on the sidewalk instead of ewasting them. Everyone's actions add up.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

You are downplaying scale. Drops of water can fall on a plant for years. Pour a one ton bucket on it and it's dead in 20 seconds. We are not all "drops" of water. I try to be environmentally conscious in my actions not because I believe it makes a real difference, but only to keep myself from being a hypocrite. The only thing different between a hypocrite and a billionaire is a pile of money.

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[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

This is a well established climate-change-laggard argument. It's the whataboutism logical fallacy.

Why should I take action, at great personal cost, when someone else is not taking action and will in fact benefit from my burden?

The Australian (and other) governments hide behind this same excuse. "Australia is just a small country, why should we take action when our CO2 production is just a small portion of that of other countries like China?".

I mean it's a good point, billionaires are worthy of great criticism, and Australia should be putting pressure on other countries, but at the same time we as individuals really do need to be taking action.

I do agree that polluting corporations use this narrative and I also find it infuriating. It's particularly palpable with plastic producers, as in plastic pollution is not their fault, but the fault of consumers failing to recycle. It's not the fault of consumers, it's the fault of regulators, who are elected by voters who are also consumers.

In summary, the whole thing is fucked and everyone sucks, but you still have to tidy up your own shit.

GO TELL BILLIONAIRES ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE! I do not want to hear it anymore, it’s not my fault, it’s not my responsibility and I can do absolutely nothing to fix it. Stop telling poor people about climate change, that’s like yelling into a hole. Go after the ones doing it, and if you think telling you that billionaires and corporations are responsible for climate change is whataboutism, you’re brainwashed by the rich

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

How can we tell billionaires about climate change? By voting. Poor people vote.

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[-] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 2 weeks ago

the two greatest things you can do for climate change: Live vegan, and not have children.

[-] darthelmet@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Actual greatest thing you could do for climate change: destroy the US military industrial complex. Not only is it a massive polluter, it also enables the capitalists to maintain their ability to extract fossil fuels and other resources around the world.

Quit it with the anti-human shit. If we’re not saving the environment for us what’s the point?

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

We're on course for our oceans to acidify and air to be unbreathable in many places before the end of the century.

It doesn't get a lot worse than that

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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean its a nice opinion but I woul disagree with the first part. The second I would agree with but more in the same way that if you are an army facing a far superior army that will not accept surrender but kill every one of you horribly you will want to fight to your last breath.

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