How House Republicans Will Try to Prove Bribery in Biden Impeachment Inquiry (Exclusive) (themessenger.com)

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GOP investigators believe they don't need proof the president received a 'direct payment' to prove bribery, but legal experts are dubious of the impeachment strategy

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[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

The first impeachment hearing is scheduled for Thursday, two days before the government shuts down. This is how House Republicans are spending their time, holding some dumbass hearings about how it still counts as a bribe even if no bribe is actually paid so long as we hate the guy. Meanwhile millions of people will lose paychecks, government assistance like fresh food for pregnant mothers and housing assistance, and the overall economy takes a kick in the teeth because of the shutdown. But don't worry America, Republicans are hot on the trail of public enemy number one Hunter Biden so it's definitely all worth it. And to think there are millions of Americans who will look at this cluster fuck and think "yup, I'm going to vote to put Republicans back in charge of Congress since they did such a good job last time".

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Fucking wild isn't it? I'm beginning to look at a lot of people I thought were smart in a completely different aspect.

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m not.

I live semi-rural in Wisconsin. These assholes broadcast how asshole they are with little (and often zero) prompting. It’s been this way since polar politic was the name of the game, so many many years now.

If anything I’m looking at society as a failed experiment at this point. Especially when you talk to any of them at length and they fully support socialist or communist ideals… but still vote red.

I just don’t go out much anymore. It’s easier than dealing with the emotional load.

[-] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

It's absolutely soul crushing fucking exhausting.
Every new day brings a new level of despicable / cruelness i did not know was possible

~ Oh and fact's DON'T matter

[-] Doug@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

Even if there were any Republicans at fault, and obviously there can't be because they're always so great at their job of serving the American people. Even if there were bad ones they'd be the ones in other areas that I can't do anything about. Everyone I vote for is always the best candidate and does everything right.

It's those other ones. They're the problem.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the other important topic on Washington politics: The new Senate Dress Code!

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Here's the extent of the proof that they have: "We really, really want this to be true and therefore we're acting like it is!"

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

They are invoking the ancient rite of "Because I say so".

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Both Zelensky and Bill Fucking Barr refused to investigate this because they knew, like anybody else who spends five minutes looking into it, that Biden was fulfilling Obama's policy, EU policy, and working in the same direction as the Ukrainian parliament, none of whom gave a shit about Hunter Biden.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No evidence. No problem

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

GOP investigators believe they don’t have to show that Biden took a “direct payment," a senior House Republican aide with direct knowledge of the impeachment inquiry told The Messenger. There are other ways to prove Biden engaged in the constitutionally impeachable offense Republicans are pursuing.

Not quite as sensational as the headline leads you to believe.

[-] neptune@dmv.social 3 points 1 year ago

Did you just neglect to quote those other ways?

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wasn't trying to editorialized, sorry.

[-] archiotterpup@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Look, I'm keeping an open mind. If there is evidence then let's see it. I want the smoking gun.

[-] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I would like to say the same, and I'm all for fighting corruption, but it's all so nakedly political as to be meaningless. What's the standard? Lying during a deposition about getting a blowjob? Impeachable. Pressuring the president of a foreign government to open an investigation into a political rival in exchange for weapons? Not impeachable. Lying about a stolen election and inciting a riot on the capital? Not impeachable. Having a fuckup as a son? Impeachable. Then there's Clarence Thomas - lying on federal disclosure forms for decades and receiving lavish gifts of travel, cash, home improvements for your mom? So not impeachable nobody even seriously considered it.

The point is, we all know Biden is getting impeached no matter what, it's all political bullshit. If he actually did receive bribes, that would just be a happy coincidence, because ultimately the evidence doesn't matter.

[-] HWK_290@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Tbf trump was impeached on both counts, just not convicted

But I agree with your sentiment. Some of these are not like the others..

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

Here's a sequence of the firing of Shokin, Prosecutor General for Ukraine:

A new vice-prosecutor starts pursuing corruption.
The new prosecutor charges and convicts a fellow prosecutor for corruption.
The U.S. issues a statement that they support these efforts, explicitly because public corruption makes it easier for Russia to control Ukraine. They urge Shokin to back this new prosecutor.
Shokin fires the new prosecutor.
Protests to have Shokin fired occur in Ukraine.
There's a movement in Ukrainian parliament to fire Shokin.
E.U. issues a statement that Shokin should be fired.
Biden goes to Ukraine, threatens aid cancellation if Shokin isn't fired.
The Ukrainian parliament fires Shokin.

It's crucial to note that Biden's threat could only have weight if Obama was backing it.

While I appreciate your open mindedness, these jokers in Congress are accusing Biden of something they know he didn't do. Even Trump's personal hatchet man in the DOJ, Bill Barr, refused to investigate Biden over this.

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

They've been looking for a smoking gun for years now and haven't shown any evidence yet.

[-] athos77@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Media bias / fact check for The Messenger:

Overall, we rate The Messenger Right-Center biased based on story selection and editorial perspectives that moderately favor the right. We also rate them as Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to the use of poor sources, sensationalized content, and one-sided reporting.

[-] crypticthree@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Try.

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