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[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 106 points 1 week ago

Good. Sucks that it took open fascism to get that to happen, but at least it happened.

[-] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago

Agreed, at least it's happening with Meta too.

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[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 91 points 1 week ago

Non-EU folk - this website won’t open in EU because they don’t want to follow our local user privacy protections. What they’re going to do with your data? Who knows.

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago

Archive

But yeah, you're 100% right.

[-] androidul@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago

man that is so cheeky of them!

Instead of abiding with the law, they just chose to block content altogether 🥲

[-] hulfpa@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 week ago

Why are they selecting BlueSky over the Fediverse?

[-] Krompus@lemmy.world 129 points 1 week ago

BlueSky is specifically designed as a drop-in Twitter replacement, it’s an easy transition, and tons of Twitter users have been advertising it for a long time. The Fediverse is comparatively obscure.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

also mainstream professionals are going to bluesky, like press and corp PR. big step towards critical mass.

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[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 week ago

The Fediverse experience starts with an unanswerable question: what server do you want to be on?

Most people will not have any way to answer that without knowing what the downstream impact will be. Mastodon people are working on smoothing that down, but it's still a pretty fraught question. And if half a given community ends up on one server and half on another, they get fragmented and conversations and followers fizzle out.

Bluesky wants to tell people they're not a single-node lock-in to avoid the Twitter effect, but it turns out that's their key advantage.

The only thing that will guarantee they don't end up like Twitter is if they revamp their corporate governance mechanisms, but they had to take VC money and haven't come up with a long-term revenue model, so it's not clear how they can avoid it.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

The email experience starts with an unanswerable question: what server do you want to be on?

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 week ago

Your email server doesn't also run the group email list and all the join/drop/approve/ban operations. And if you bring your own email domain name, you can go somewhere else and get no disruption. But if you sign up for me@hotmail.com and hotmail bans you, you'll lose all your connections and conversation history.

The canonical list of operations on a social media platform far exceed that of an email service, a bulletin board, or a messaging service group. It's apples and rocket ships.

Bluesky is offering simple one-stop answers to a lot of these concerns. Fediverse needs to answer all these, plus address the whole long-term financial sustainability question.

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[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 week ago

For e-mail, it does not really make a difference.

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[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

No that decision is, for most people, made for them. You use the server provided for you by your ISP/work/university or the one that's associated with logging into your smartphone.

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[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

"How can I send Gmails?"

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[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I would assume the same reason anyone chooses it over the fediverse, because they want their content to be easily discoverable.

[-] whatwhatwhatwhat@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

The fediverse just doesn’t have the audience nor ease of use to be the smart investment for most people, at least in the short term.

In the long term, I believe the fediverse would be the right move. However most people struggle to think long-term outside of their own fields, and scientists are not immune to this phenomenon.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't understand why people ask this. Most people you talk to on Lemmy will say they don't want the userbase to grow much more than it has because with that growth comes the other problems that larger platforms like shitter and reddit have.

That's true by and large and we also don't have enough moderators here as is.

And for reasons I don't understand, people keep asking why mainstream media outlets, influencers, and other trusted accounts don't transition to the fediverse, as if they won't bring with them an influx of users (at least a fraction of which would be considered undesirable).

Why do you want them to come here? (As someone who would like to see Lemmy grow, I'm curious about how you think this will rollout and what the consequences will be). I would like to see Lemmy grow but I'm not sure all of that growth will have solely good follow-on effects.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Its too nerdy for its own good. The plebs want simple. Its the way of things.

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[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Presumably either because they've not heard of the Fediverse, because almost nobody has, and/or because they want people to actually see what they post.

[-] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Because the Fediverse is a mess with atrocious UX. Choose the wrong server and you might find you are cut off from a large chunk of it because a mastodon.art mod didn’t like something that happened on your instance and servers copy blocklist from each other (not a theoretical example, mind you, something I learned a few months into being on one particular instance.).

Servers can have all sorts of rules you will have to carefully study or risk getting banned (some for example will only allow images with descriptions being shared, this includes boosts.)

In short, the amount of work expected to participate is just - never - going to draw in the average user.

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Probably because it has an algorithm

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[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 55 points 1 week ago

I feel like scientists should move towards open source solutions ... I feel like most scientists are smart enough to launch a mastodon server, but well.

[-] ubergeek@lemmy.today 18 points 1 week ago

Most scientists aren't allowed to do stuff like that, or purely just don't have the time.

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[-] smeg@infosec.pub 37 points 1 week ago

How many times can people keep making the same mistake without us concluding they're stupid? Closed corporate social networks ALWAYS go to shit. Enshitification is inevitable. And you'll have the sunk cost fallacy stopping them from leaving, until they all finally get fed up and switch again. Own your network - stop swapping.

[-] sm1dger@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

But we did leave and if (or when) it becomes enshitified, we will move again. We don't need an idealised platform, we just want something easy to use which doesn't (yet) have the baggage and culture of twiXer

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[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Scientists should consult tech people about stuff like this just like we should consult scientists for science stuff. Unfortunately a lot of tech people also aren't conscious of this stuff either.

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[-] victorz@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

Cool. I'm going out on a limb and saying Bluesky seems pretty based so far. I made an account when it was announced, and it's pretty cool. Nice app, seemingly good mission statement.

I don't want to dismiss something until it actually turns to shit. If it's good now, I'll use it now. When it turns to crap, I'll just jump off. I'll always have Lemmy and Mastodon as my mains, so I don't see the harm personally. 🤷‍♂️ Let's just hope it'll last for the scientists' sake.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Problem is it absolutely will turn when the Bluesky owners Jay Graber and Jack Dorsey decide it's time to cash in. The project started out as a way to start decentralizing twitter, but they never actually accomplished that goal.

[-] Virkkunen@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

Jack Dorsey has nothing to do with Bluesky

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[-] Avia_Vik@jlai.lu 30 points 1 week ago

Why switch to BlueSky if you have Mastodon...

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago

I'm on both and Mastodon is missing (at least in any easy to use way) most of the features that make Bluesky such a good destination:

  • instant add subscribe lists
  • subscribable block lists
  • custom feeds/subscribable algorithms
  • keyword/topic blocks
  • nuclear block where you never see the blocked person again
  • optional discover feed
  • DM preferences

All these things (and more I'm sure I'm forgetting), make Bluesky very quick to get started with and very powerful for honing your feeds to be exactly how you want and free of harassment and trolling.

I am still trying with Mastodon, but it's really slow going and I can fully understand why people wouldn't bother. After a year I am way behind where I was in a week with Bluesky.

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[-] rosco385@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

In a word, audience. I'd prefer it if everyone went with Mastodon, but the audience on BlueSky is orders of magnitude bigger. I cross post to both, but only because I don't trust BlueSky not to do exactly what Twitter and Meta have done eventually.

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[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

oof. blue sky was created by the guy who made twitter wasn't it? if he sells to the next bond villain, blue sky will just become twitter 2.0.

open source, decentralized.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i have accepted that most of the internet will be a vicious cycle of enshittification. go to cool new site, site gets too popular for its own good, monetization kicks in, site now sucks, rinse and repeat.

FOSS stuff like lemmy and mastodon will never get past the first step, which is fine. they will just occupy a separate niche.

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[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago

Yes but it's also a good sign that he left the project some time ago. He's all about NOSTR now.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

nothing makes me more skeptical than seeing the word "scientists" in a headline.

[-] TheEschatonSucks@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 week ago

At least they weren’t baffled

[-] qisope@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Surely there was at least some kind of breakthrough

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

perhaps a bafflethrough

[-] Genius@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago

There's no excuse for using Xittter in 2025.

[-] DSTGU@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

First time seeing HTTP code 451

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

https://http.cat/status/451

because I needed an explanation of what that means, and I wanted it to be cute and funny.

[-] giacomo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

from one monoplatform to another? OK cool, what could go wrong?

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