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[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I wholly disagree with this after using markdown for everything for a few reasons, but it may work for some people if you really love operating from a basic CLI. Some people also get by with storing everything in plain-text files as well. Why not, plain-text will still be supported as well.

Markdown, especially CommonMark, will likely never provide what you want. Is it convenient when you have hundreds or thousands of files to manually manage? Most likely you'll constantly be searching for ways to make markdown work more like a word processor & CMS, because what you really want is a powerful WYSIWYG content management platform.

I'm not going to judge someone if they are content with basic markdown. It isn't my place to. But to make a statement like, "if it is worth keeping, save it in Markdown" is preaching from a bubble.

[-] Womble@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The articles point was that markdown (or other similar utf-8 text based documents) is the best guarantee you have for the files being usable into the indefinite future. As you get into the complicated formats of things like word processors the less likely that format will be meaningfully usable in 10,20,50 years time, good luck reading a obsolete word processor file from the 80s today.

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Agree and disagree. There is a place for sophisticated management tools but when they stop getting supported or they're purchase by a company you hate, you're left scrambling to convert everything.

Best case for me anyway are sophisticated tools that use markdown as the basis of their files like Obsidian. So I know if they disappear I still have all my data in a universal format without any effort on my end.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

WYSIWYG, Word Processors and CMSs are the kind of thing I don't even want for my current content (or any content I made in the last 25+ years), why would I want any of them as an archive format?

[-] Extrawurst@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago

I have a tendency to jump between different note-taking services. Markdown seems like it could maybe be a cure for me.. By now i have no idea where I should look for a note I know I’ve taken, is it in notion, onenote, apple notes, and so on..

[-] breadguy@fedia.io 7 points 4 months ago

gotta hop on obsidian, everybody's doin it

[-] Karmmah@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I've tried a few different note taking apps but I'm sticking with obsidian even though it is not open source because it saves everything in a simple folder structure as markdown files and simple images. I like that even without the program you can just search for the names of the images or notes on your system.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 4 months ago

I use Obsidian with Zettel Notes on my phone to access and edit the MD files in Obsidian, as it is much faster for dashing off a quick note. ZN also has tools that allow you to save a web page or selection as MD which is very handy indeed.

[-] brrt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Obsidian has the ability to save web pages/selections now with Obsidian Web Clipper

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I migrated from mediawiki to markdown in git 8 years ago and never looked back. The ability to publish to any number of static site hosts, and use any number of editors, some that have preview mode, is rad. Data liberty, data portability, wide support, easy to convert, easy to grep, good enough for 95% of written notes.

My biggest gripe is poor support for tables of data.

[-] amzd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

That website was the fastest loading website I’ve ever visited.

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 months ago

Handwritten HTML with limited tags works just as well for many purposes (just forbid div, span, and a few others and the complexity you see in most webpages evaporates). The important part is using a text-based format from which information can be extracted even if the fancier display protocols become obsolete.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

See, this is why I'm sticking with pen and paper for the really important stuff.

No offence to the apps themselves, I find them especially useful when I need to transfer info from one device to another. But I do not trust anything purely digital for long-term to permanent archiving, especially not Cloud solutions.

Also significantly more reliable in case said info need not see the light of day. Just sayin'.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Paper is just about the easiest thing to lose over the years and it certainly doesn't last forever. You are one bit of water damage, one fire, one break-in,... away from losing it all permanently with paper.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Same argument can be made about a hard drive, or a data tape, which is why I think we can all agree backups are vital in every type of archival action.

[-] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

Backups are great for digital files yeah... Are you actually running your notes through a copier twice every time you change something important and running one of the copies to external storage?

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, I have several notebooks allocated for various types of importance - one for writing down everything, one in which I write down things which are relevant but not important long-term, and two in which I keep copies of the notes I need to keep. I just write it twice.

If you're asking about official documents, then yes. I keep at least* two legalised copies of everything (always separate) and 5 generic photocopies of each document in case anyone needs it on file for whatever reason.

Again, these aren't new arguments against storage environments, we've literally been doing bureaucracy for centuries.

Edit: to add, this is fretting over potentialities, I have lost precisely zero documents to water damage in three decades, so has my family for decades before that. Not saying it can't happen, just saying it's pretty easy to keep paper copies safe and usable for ridiculous amounts of time.

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