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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

A new H5N1 bird flu variant has become "endemic in cows," with cases detected in Nevada and Arizona, raising concerns about human transmission.

Experts warn that without intervention, the outbreak will continue, but Trump has cut CDC staff and halted flu vaccination campaigns.

The virus's spread coincides with a severe flu season, increasing the risk of mutation.

The administration has also stopped sharing flu data with the WHO and shifted its containment strategy away from culling infected poultry, raising fears of inadequate response.

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[-] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 92 points 1 year ago

Aw shit, here we go again.

Calling it now: we have another pandemic during Trump's current term.

Conspiracy theorists will go "isn't it weird there's always a pandemic while trump is president, must be the Democrats/Jews/Illuminati/"The Regime" controlling everything, Plandemic am a right?"

Couldn't possibly be Trump removing all safeguards against pandemics...

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago

When it's in California, it's "God's wrath", when it's under Trump, it's "just a thing that happens, nothing to be done."

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

And to the rest of the world, it will be the "Trump Pandemic".

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[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I hope it will be called "Trump plague" or something this time around.

[-] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 year ago

"Trump Flu 2" to emphasize this is happening AGAIN

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[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago
[-] dhork@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Can this be passed through milk? Maybe the Fascism problem will solve itself if Bobby Brainworm convinces all the fascists to drink more raw milk ...

[-] Podunk@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Dairy farmer here, who fought this crap off when we still didnt know what it was.

Bird flu contaminated raw milk in cats, yeah it will kill the shit out of them. Its what helped us figure out what it was in the first place. Nothing confirmed so far as humans being infected from consumption that i am aware of currently, but i personally wouldnt try it.

The dairy workers that got bird flu. It was pinkeye that popped positive for h5. Probably splashback from either milk or fecal. It wasnt really a big deal other than conjunctivitis sucks.

But if you drink raw milk, you are playing russian roulette as patient zero at this point. Dont do it.

[-] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago

There are cases of a couple dairy workers getting mild cases of bird flu from getting raw milk splashed in their eye while working, so yes it's not terribly unlikely.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 1 year ago

And cats dying of it after drinking raw milk and eating raw food products.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Government told people to never drink raw milk. The sale and consumption of raw milk went up in ivermectin loving circles. It's weird reverse psychology with raw milk.

[-] imvii@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago
[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It'd be fine if they were just endangering themselves, but the most likely way we get a more virulent bird flu strain is one of these idiots catching in while they also have the regular flu

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

And then refusing to isolate or wear a mask. While being unvaccinated.

They're basically dirty people.

I wouldn't be surprised if they started refusing to ever wash their hands.

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[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

What's next? Surely these people wouldn't be dumb enough to drink bleach.

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

People confusing this with COVID might be in for a surprise because if this becomes a human pandemic it will likely be much worse.

The difference being that Covid took a scientific breakthrough to make a vaccine for (as various factors about the virus were unprecedented) while flu variants are very much a known thing as far as virology goes.

The feds already have a reserve of human-safe H5N1 vaccines, the only thing preventing them from using that when SHTF is ideology. It will be both completely prepared for and completely preventable.

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

You think we'll have enough?

Fascists are actively slashing funding, firing experts, cutting programs. Research labs are currently in shambles. The future secretary of health is a fucking anti-vaxer.

You thought covid was bad? We're going to experience a pandemic with no government action first hand.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

assuming the strain used in that reserve will be effective against whatever variant makes a breakthrough to humans. note that current H5 vaccine candidates are determined based on animal studies and a variant that jumps from an animal to a human might show substantial variation that we could need to change the strain in the vaccines. it would be faster than before thanks to mRNA vaccines but I would think that even just within the USA, a sufficient roll out with an updated vaccine would at best take a couple months assuming people would be willing to get vaccinated. Between the antivax people in US and parts of the world not receiving vaccine quickly enough, there would be ample room for such a H5 to take hold and have devastating effects. Covid could still seem like a walk in the park despite having mRNA tech ready to go now.

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[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago
[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago
[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

After fucking it up on a global pandemic there were people attacking the Capitol to defend him. He's just trying to repeat that achievement.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

This is seriously the dumbest and probably most preventable timeline. Well, except for all the goddamn idiots and apathetic people in the country.

Sigh.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Username checks out.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Surely some rich republican ranchers can get Trump's attention...

[-] hark@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Bird flu for the meats, tariffs for everything else (and probably affecting meats as well). I wonder how this will affect our food supply during Great Depression II compared to the dust bowl and tariffs in the first one.

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[-] StillFromTheBlock@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Also was just found to be infecting rats for the first time ever documented.

[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, in Michigan, there's a case of two exclusively indoor cats catching it. One prominent theory is that the humans in the household passed it to them.

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Think about how many cats aren’t being reported.

Like, if my cat drops dead I’m just burying her. No one would ever know.

If the 5 strays that hang outside my apartment died of it I’d just bury them too. No one would have a clue.

[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Great point, and H5N1 can kill cats within like 24 hours (not sure if that's exposure or first symptoms). So, you're not paying close attention to your cat for even just a matter of hours, it dies, you don't know why, and just bury it.

[-] iamanurd@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago
[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

What should I do with them? Eat them?

Yes. I should eat them.

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[-] Hyphlosion@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I’m back on the carnivore diet because it’s been really the only thing to help with my long-covid that has been on my ass ever since the pandemic started.

And now this is going to make that harder.

The same guy I hold responsible for my long-covid is going to get me fucked up yet again. How’s that for irony?

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Eat fish like the Japanese do. They live the longest for a reason.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 16 points 1 year ago

The Okinawans, in particular, are known for their longevity. Their traditional diet is largely vegetarian.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/okinawa-diet#the-diet

The traditional Okinawa diet is low in calories and fat while high in carbs. It emphasizes vegetables and soy products alongside occasional — and small — amounts of noodles, rice, pork, and fish.

[-] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

counter argument: taco rice and spam isn't actually healthy, but lying about obachan being dead so you can keep pocketing her pension means you can buy more chu-hai.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/530073/scientist-snares-ig-noble-gong-for-work-debunking-blue-zones

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[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 10 points 1 year ago

Bad idea. We're at a point now where an all fish diet would actually poison you. We've dumped so much shit into the water that tends to bioaccumulate, and since big fish tend to eat smaller ones...

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[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

The price of beef is about to go the way of the price of eggs.

Down, right?

Down, right?

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

See, if you bury your head in the sand, the virus can't get you

[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Well, ya know, it's primarily a respiratory disease among humans. You literally aren't likely to catch if if your head is buried in sand. And once you suffocate or whatever, you won't have to worry about the flu.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This is the kind of outside the box thinking that makes this nation great.

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[-] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Maybe Idiocracy won't happen. The stupid ones should wipe themselves out in a pandemic. We just need to wait for the right one.

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[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Up next repealing regulations preventing farmers from selling downer cows. Can't afford not to sell infected meat. Grocery prices are already too high. What could go wrong?

[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Maybe it will get people to start drinking plant based milk if the price of course milk skyrockets like it has with eggs. All the IGF-1 in dairy isn't good for you and could even be part of the reason for the rise in colorectal cancer (the amount of dairy we consume nowadays in nuts).

[-] imvii@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I usually have a little milk around the house for cooking sauces and things. Something like soy or almond milk don't make good substitutes. I can't remember the last time I just drank a glass of milk.

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[-] vegeta@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just do this:

  • stop testing,
  • stick a lightbulb up their rear
  • put some horse paste in their feed
  • disinfectant in their water
  • ???
  • Profit
[-] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How about we... i dunno... not farm animals? It's bad for health, it's bad for the animals, it's bad for the environment. Every pandemic we've ever had has been caused by animal ag. That's COVID, SARS, MERS, AIDS, etc.

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