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Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy stated he is willing to resign if it ensures peace or NATO membership for Ukraine.

"If it is peace for Ukraine, and if you really want me to leave my post, I’m ready," he said. "Alternatively, I can trade this for NATO membership... I’m focusing on Ukraine’s security today, not in 20 years."

His comments come amid tensions with Donald Trump, who falsely suggested the Ukrainian president was responsible for starting the war.

Meanwhile, U.S.-Russia negotiations continue without Ukraine, which Zelenskyy firmly rejects. Zelenskyy emphasized the importance of Ukrainian involvement in any peace negotiations.

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[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago
[-] commander@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"It's easier to fool a man than to convince him he'd been fooled." - Mark Twain

Tom Sawyer is a work of satire. It was written to shed light on how gullible and stupid Southern whites ~~were~~ are.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

And how every adult in the story is a huge hypocrite.

[-] commander@lemmings.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Really makes me think of all the proud, racist christian women I know who gave birth out of wedlock and are now single-mothers.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is what being a leader looks like.

It would be a shame if a shit end to this war buries Zelensky in history. He’s not perfect, but he deserves some monuments.

[-] Subtracty@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

The actions of a man who loves his country and not power? Politicians in the US (on both sides) could never comprehend this.

[-] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Would his resignation prevent future attempts at running for president?

surely they'd preclude him getting voted back in...

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 38 points 1 week ago

Trump suggested that the Ukrainian president was responsible for starting the war. In reality, Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, initiating the current land war.

I’d like it if more summaries of what conservatives say/believe were followed by sentences which began with “In reality…”

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

They should go even harder, and explain that Trump is apparently openly lying.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Trump lied, suggesting that the Ukrainian president was responsible for starting the war. In reality, Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, initiating the current land war.

[-] logi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Trump lied that the Ukrainian president was responsible for starting the war. In reality, etc.

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

The only issue is that conservatives don't read so they'll never see it anyway.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

Then it would be an inside joke for us!

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

Honestly he’s gotta be pretty fucking tired by now. I’d want to retire after leading a country through war for 3 years.

[-] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Going from comedian to wartime leader is quite a jump.

[-] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Well, he also went from lawyer to comedian. Kind of makes the jump seem much lower.

[-] Litebit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

lol now, US president Krasnov Trump can't say President Zelensky is a dictator.

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

What a tyrannical dictator; shameful!

/S

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Who the fuck would actually want his job? Besides some Russian cunt?

[-] Laser@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

It's a hypothetical scenario anyways because Ukraine being a NATO member would mean NATO boots on ground in Ukraine, which the US (and in fairness a lot of other NATO countries, but for different reasons) want to avoid. But it calls the bluff on the unfounded dictator accusations that Russia and some puppets peddle.

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[-] credo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

NATO aint what it used to be. I suggest a new startup instead.

Edit: Lol, people downvoting me when one of the founding members is threatening to invade other members. Idiots.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Hi there. Canadian here. We're still a part of NATO.

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Now we just have to get our shit in gear. Canada needs more of everything defence wise. Maybe fewer generals though

And as constitutional monarchy, your King lives in the UK.

EUTO still fits.

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[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Even if the USA were to leave NATO or refuse to participate, there still isn't a better security guarantee than the remaining block being obligated to engage militarily in your defense, and the block still contains nuclear powers.

[-] credo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Right.. so start a new organization with those members. Ukraine isn’t joining NATO with Trump holding veto powers. Anyone who can’t see this is myopic.

Why would the US leave when the russian asset can do more damage from within?

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Ok, so that's the crux of it that I think was unclear in your original post.

Your initial post was read by me (and presumably others) as "NATO without the backing of the USA isn't a meaningful defense group"

But I think what you're saying is "ENTRY to NATO with the USA pulling the strings is an unrealistic goal"

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