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"It does suck, because everybody kind of makes fun of the Cybertruck. To the outside person, it's kind of weird, it's ugly, whatever. Once you actually get in it, drive it, you realize it's pretty frickin' cool," he says. "It's kind of been sad, because I've been trying to prove to people that it's a really awesome truck that's not falling apart, and then mine starts to fall apart, so it's just... Yeah, it's kind of unfortunate and sad."

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 28 points 2 weeks ago

"I bought a very expensive piece of shit, and everyone else thinks it's a piece of a shit, but when I try to convince them that it's not a piece of shit... it ends up doing piece of shit things. I just don't get it."

[-] datalowe@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I also really liked this part

"[...]I love Teslas," he says. "I'm just trying to share what's going on to better help the engineers to fix this super fast."

He's just so cute, the way he's keeping his copes up despite everything

[-] gencha@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

But it's so frickin cool when you drive it!

[-] gencha@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

Teslas have had shit build quality forever. They ripped out so many features from the cockpit and replaced it all with a single shitty display. Elon said it's radical and better, fans sucked it up.

He was a scammer right from the start. He bought the company to ride the green wave and rip off idiots with garbage EVs. Everyone knew his shit cars don't cost much money to build, Chinese EV makers proved it.

He couldn't even turn a profit with his fucking company and had to resort to stock manipulation. People seem to forget what a piece of human garbage Elon was all along.

It's no surprise that garbage truck falls apart. Trade it in for the roadster you fucking idiot!

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

the trim piece that flew off of his truck is connected to a plastic frame bolted directly to the car; that trim piece, he says, is stuck to the frame with adhesive rather than welded or bolted to anything. That adhesive has seemingly failed in multiple places on his truck, leading to the loosened roofline trim panels.

[-] socphoenix@midwest.social 14 points 2 weeks ago

How the hell is that thing legal to sell??

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

There's a reason why Musk is paying to dismantle the government.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I worked at the Tesla plant in Fremont for a bit and most of every car is held together with adhesive. They claim it's super strong and once heated, it's stronger than welding... But, I mean... They are still falling apart and I don't know if that's because the adhesive sucks or if it's because every single day, they had to have someone remind everyone that the glue pattern posted at every station where it's applied isn't just a suggestion, it's an engineering requirement for the structural integrity of the part. People were just slapping the adhesive onto shit in any old way they pleased a lot of the time.

[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

it’s stronger than welding

(X) to doubt

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

they had to have someone remind everyone that the glue pattern posted at every station where it's applied isn't just a suggestion, it's an engineering requirement for the structural integrity of the part. People were just slapping the adhesive onto shit in any old way they pleased a lot of the time.

In other words, the things were being designed by underqualified engineers who didn't understand factors of safety, design for manufacturability, or that precision comes at a cost.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

I suspect the real issue is the workers aren't given enough time on the line to do this correctly so they just churn them out to hit the needed metric knowing it will fail after being delivered to the owner.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hence,

precision comes at a cost

That cost could be needing to use precision robot arms instead of humans, needing to pay higher salaries to find really skilled and diligent humans, or as you suggested, slowing down the assembly line so the workers have time to be more careful.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe. Or the production managers weren't maintaining control over the quality of the work.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Adhesive bonding can be a good engineering choice, it's used a lot in aerospace, but like any engineering process, it has to be done right. If the thermal coefficient of expansion of the panels is big enough and the adhesive is immovable, the bonds will break. And as you mention, it's a really good idea to put the adhesive where it's supposed to go, otherwise it's not going to work correctly.

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[-] Palerider@feddit.uk 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's not over here in the UK. They're not road legal.

[-] aarRJaay@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

There's no consumer protection agency anymore. I wonder why.

[-] Pringles@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There's a reason why the EU won't allow the sale of cybertrucks and it all has to do with ~~build quality and~~ safety.

Edit: strikethrough added based on incorrect assumption as pointed out below

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[-] KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Adhesive binding can be significantly stronger than mechanical bonding when done right.

...when done right. Yeah. Guess where I'm putting my money.

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[-] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Whatever glue they're using has a different expansion/contraction rate than the stainless steel, and the fairly smooth metal doesn't give much surface area to hold, anyway. So in cold or hot days, you're going to see separation.

And it doesn't help when they don't even glue the right pattern from the factory.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I find this offensive, it can't possibly be true, because Elon knows more than anybody else on this planet about production. He has said so himself!!
And one thing we know for sure, is that you can trust Elon. We will have FSD by 2017, and a manned base on the moon by 2024. And Hyperloop will revolutionize public transportation.

/s

[-] Zron@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

If I spend 100 grand on something, it better not be fucking glued together.

I didn’t even glue my wife’s glasses together when they broke, I soldered them. Because glue sucks for attaching metal to anything.

Could have done bolts on the inside, or fucking rivets, or just welded the edges and it would have been better.

Cheap ass product sold for premium prices.

[-] soul@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The correct glue in the correct amount with the correct pattern against the correct surface will be perfectly fine. That said, they should be bending the edges of the panels around to hold things in place. But I'm sure they're not.

[-] nthavoc@lemmy.today 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The type steel they used isn't easily bendable. In fact, it's a very expensive process just to get the panels in the shape they are. You also have to replace a whole panel if it gets damaged. Instead of snapping / drilling things into place, I'm guessing this is why they just slap Elmer's glue on with " the highest quality allowed by law" (Tesla's words) 3M blue tape. It's $100k for a reason, but a reason that creates maximum turd polishing for people that bought it.

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ah, Spring. When the Swasticars shed their winter coats...

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Toughest truck ever built, bullet proof, yada yada yada.

Well apparently it's not even wind proof. 🤣🤣🤣

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Elon promise: 10nm precision Elon Delivers: truck stuck with glue.

I think the problem with Tesla is that they have too many legacy hires making decisions.

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[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The fuck is this website ?

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

You went further than I did. I closed the tab as soon as I got that "press and hold" crap. If they value their page that much, they might as well keep it.

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[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

If the in-car cameras don't see you do Heil Hitler before every ride, they will occasionally instruct the computer to drop parts of the car. That is a standard feature. If you do the V sign, it will engage autopilot and crash you into the nearest wall. Pro-tip: if you want to do some sort of anti-nazi activity in your Cybershit, do it in winter, or early spring, as the "truck" can't do fuck, as the wheels don't work on snow or mud.

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[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

it just flew off while driving

Lol

[-] imvii@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

A Tesla owner who wraps the vehicles for a living has come up with a hypothesis as to why his truck lost a piece of its bodywork at speed.

The car is shit and poorly built. I don't think there is much of a mystery here.

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because the truck is embarrassed, it's trying to mask itself

[-] moseschrute@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It’s going through puberty obviously

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