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I thought the reason for trashing trade agreements and taking a wrecking ball to the Canadian economy with extreme tariffs was because of fentanyl coming from Canada at the border?

Apparently not, says Trump, from his speech at Congress tonight: “... Tariffs are about making America rich again and making America great again”.

By his own words, he has just shown his big lie.

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[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 76 points 4 days ago

So they're illegal then?

Trump was only able to enact these tariffs without sign off from Congress (which he would absolutely not get) because they were enacted under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. The act allows the president to apply certain controls over the economy so long as they're in response to a national emergency. At some point a while back either Trump or Biden, I forget which, declared a state of emergency over fentanyl. Trump is now using the tiny trickle of fentanyl coming from Canada as his justification for these tariffs because has to connect them to a state of emergency to enforce them.

If they're actually about making America richer (no matter how wrong he is about how that works) then they need approval by congress to go into force. Every single affected business in America should have standing to sue over that.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 44 points 4 days ago

Oh no, their convicted felon president who faced zero repercussions is committing another crime! I'm sure the US legal system will provide justice.

I agree that people should be made aware, but replace "sue" with "riot".

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago

Trust me bro. One more lawsuit and it's over trust me bro. Just one more.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

A man can only stand so many finger wags!

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago

It's when they furrow their brows that you know they're really serious!

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

The walls are closing in on Trump!

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago

Who's gonna do anything about it anyway ? They're all in on it.

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[-] lineofkings@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Absolutely right. He knows what he’s doing. He’s messing with the law expertly for years.

Well he went through his normally fentanyl crisis bs, then let this slip out about tariffs would make America rich.

Americans aren’t pushing back yet because they believe his lies AND believes it will make his country rich.

[-] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 115 points 4 days ago

The words of a weak, pathetic man.

[-] Daelsky@lemmy.ca 50 points 4 days ago

I listened to it with my dad. Horrible. This guy is mentally ill and doesn’t comprehend what tariffs do. It will crash America’s economy and squeeze even harder the middle class there. Unless that’s what he wants..

[-] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

I didn't watch it. I just can't listen to him speak for more than about 30 seconds. The gibberish and gish-gallops are just too much for me to handle. I usually try to find a transcript after the fact.

[-] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

Transcripts are a better use of one’s time.

[-] lineofkings@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago

I purposely didn't watch it knowing I would get better results from a summary. Like this quote from him that tariffs was about making America rich again (not about fentanyl) was all I needed to hear tonight. The rest is screaming noise.

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 24 points 4 days ago

He believes he IS America, we will see if he's wrong

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It would be underestimating Trump to think he doesn't understand what tariffs do.

He's backed by the richest men in the world, and he's going scorched earth to make them richer.

He's not stupid; he's greedy, nefarious and will stop at nothing to achieve his goals of making America's richest folks even richer at the expense of everything else.

Trump by himself is just a rambling old man. What is scary is the army of like-minded people worshipping him.

[-] lineofkings@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago

This. We cannot underestimate how sinister he is. He talks like he’s dumb but it’s a tactic to broaden his appeal. He’s a smart narcissist and he loves to be worshipped.

He is being played like a violin by Russia. I don’t know if he’s too dumb to realize it, or he thinks playing with Russia will get him his own Putin like stature. Which it might!

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[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

No no, it'll make AMERICA (Trump's America, the billionaire and multimillionaire class) wealthier. That's what they want. The entire idea is to effectively crush whatever little middle class is left, and make the lower class dependent upon the whims of the aristocrats like him.

Basically, we're rapidly sliding back towards feudalism, with us as the serfs.

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[-] lineofkings@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 days ago

I don't know of any other word to use for him than evil. Who deliberately destroys millions of lives intentionally purely for their own monetary gain?

The problem is, many many Americans support this kind of leadership style of USA. The world needs to stop supporting America. Stop buying American products and services. America's only goal is destroy everyone and everything else for it's own gain.

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[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 93 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

translation for the masses: it's about "making america's rich, richer". he don't give a fk about you or me or anyone else. just those very few at the top (and even then, he don't care about them, either, unless they're giving him a cut or are a pathway to power)

[-] lineofkings@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 days ago

Oh man exactly. Why do people buy his bs and lies so hard?

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 days ago

hate. he sells hate and hurt, and the maga nuts want to see certain people hurt, even at their own expense.

[-] lineofkings@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago

It's true isn't it. MAGAts just want to see other people suffer and be miserable. That's how they feel better about their own shitty lives.

[-] Corngood@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Literally

He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.

And they were already saying that in 2019

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[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Mass hysteria, also, there is a more boring reason. Most people aren't really paying attention. I was at the gun store yesterday talking to one of the clerks about one of the AKs behind the counter. Mentions "ammo used to be dirt cheap but you can't get it anymore" (steel case ammo used to come from Russia), I joke with him "well maybe not for much longer". He responds with "I doubt it, it comes from Russia". In my head I was like, yeah, that's what I mean. Have you not been paying attention to Trump?

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[-] rbn@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 days ago

But at some point these rich people will have enough and all the extra wealth will trickle down, right? Right?

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[-] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 days ago

It's about making America Reich.

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[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago

He's missing an "e" there. It's about making America Reich.

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[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago

The fun part about Trump's voter base is that when you point to this, they'll still say it was about fentanyl. That's the beauty of presenting contradictory facts: idiots will cherry-pick whichever one they think makes themselves correct and everyone else wrong.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

They're not just idiots. They're indoctrinated to the point of extreme mental illness; they're a danger to society, and themselves.

[-] CompleteUnknown@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

They think they're in on the game. When they finally find out they're not, it's going to be a rude awakening and too late.

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

You underestimate the cognitive dissonance of the average Trumper, there will be no awakening

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[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago

By america he means the rich folks.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 36 points 4 days ago

Okay, so it absolutely was market manipulation. A dump and pump. Cue the tariffs to be rescinded this afternoon.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago

If it was intended to be a dump and pump, it's not going to work. Companies aren't going to reestablish supply chains just to get rugpulled later. More important than price and quality is consistency. Just the uncertainty alone will have an effect for years.

[-] The_v@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Yep look at the soy export market. After Trump's last fiasco on 2018 and Biden not reversing the idiot, Brazil has replaced the U.S. as the top exporter in the world.

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[-] lineofkings@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Holy gawd you’re right. Ultimate evil.

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[-] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago

As an American I feel like I need to apologize to the regular people of the world. I don't support anything this moron is doing. Fuck Donald Trump, the ultra rich and our spineless representatives.

[-] dlhextall@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

Ok, now stop apologizing and do something about it.

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[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago

Apologize all you want. Don't care.

Stop apologizing and go yell at your government officials. Run your republican magat governors out of your state government. Run your magat state rep or congress person out of office. Organize and go protest and get shit done.

Until then apologies are meaningless.

[-] lineofkings@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Thank you. Whenever I watch the American news, the only comments being made are about how Americans will survive the tariff war and be fine. And then how Trudeau should watch his words because canada "has no cards". No consideration is given to the destruction of the Canadian people and its economy, or any ownership taken for the fact that they just trashed the trade agreements under false pretences. I know there are good Americans out there, but why aren't more speaking up loudly?

It's so clearly a pressure tactic to strangle the canadian economy in an effort to annex it for USA and Russia.

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[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

This guy is trying to bring back mercantilism.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 12 points 3 days ago

In america the rich eat the poor

[-] 60d@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

In Mother Russia, the rich eat the poor.

FTFY

[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

That's what he said, america...

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Very disturbing.

US has an auto surplus with Canada. Vast overall trade, with exports 2% of GDP.

Tariffs are a sales tax that is somewhat regressive. What he's saying is more tax cuts for the rich can be financed by taxes on the non rich, but with a cost to production/output/employment too. Canada should be acting now, but sooner or later, if auto and other industry is destroyed, there are much higher value options than what's made in US, (and we subsidize auto industry heavily) and blacklisting US goods in Canada is not going to make the US richer, even if the oligarchs get lower taxes.

But the supremacist attitude to destroy Canada, whether or not "it pays off", is a betrayal that needs counter actions/diplomacy with others now instead of waiting/hoping that supremacist domination will be rationalized away.

[-] starshipHighwayman69@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago

Narrator " it wasn't"

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

It's already rich. The wealth is just held by like 6 guys.

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[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Fuck Donald Trump.

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