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What makes this worse is the obvious disrespect from Cowbee of my request to disengage. I made it very clear I didn't want to argue. These communities have absolutely no standards of behaviour for members of the in-group. Which is exactly why I don't engage with them in these communities.

Well, also the fact that I hate being constantly called a liberal for not repeating Capitalist Putin's latest botfarm talking point. Talking to these people is an exercise in keeping my calm while I am constantly insulted. No thank you.

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[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Maybe there's more context here that I'm missing, but from what I can see...

YDI/BPR

If you don't want to argue, stop typing or block them. Real childish pot stirring behaviour going on there. You can't try and get the last word in by saying "don't respond to my criticism."

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[-] freeman@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 month ago

He didn't accuse you of not being a leftist, he accused the Democrats™ of that.

Your comment there as well as your description as an anarchist seem to imply that your are not a Democrat yourself but you merely want them to win instead of Trump (lesser evil and all that).

You apparently called them a Trump supporter (which is calling someone not a leftist as you admit you did).

You feel disrespected by people arguing with you after you argued against the original post. Then you come here and say the quiet part loud.

I don’t want to argue, but I do want to get the last word in

... YDI

[-] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago

Ignoring the points of the argument, you have to tell them to "disengage" with nothing else posted in your comment to them. I have a troll following me around every time I talk about a certain topic and the only way to get them to stop (for a brief moment) is to say "disengage." I've made it clear I don't want to talk to them anymore, multiple times, but still I have to type "disengage" every time they reply to me the same exact bad faith shit they always say.

If you don't want to deal with them altogether, you have to consider blocking them. The troll I've been dealing with has tried to egg me and others into blocking them, they celebrate each time they get blocked. So I also understand if you don't want to block them, they are miserable people who enjoy feeding on negativity. The fact trolls roam lemmy can dampen your enjoyment, it really does suck.

[-] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago
[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Interesting. What's the value of an explicit "disengage" compared to just not replying?

[-] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

Well for one: silence isn't disengaging sometimes, so they may keep replying.

Sometimes you'd want to add extra context before you disengage too; for this we will take action against people who break the rule (on our instance)

You can't say "Disengage! Also you're stupid." as some "last word own". If that is said then they'll have to deal the consequences; we won't do anything abt it.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

It's a courtesy to tell the other user that they shouldn't expect a response, and an extension of good-faith.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Yep, this is correct. I couldn't just leave the implication that I'm a Trump supporter uncontested, that was slander, they nullified the disengage rule by doing so. I'm fine with not continuing a conversation people don't wish to continue, but not with people trying to use the disengage rule to hide behind personal insults towards me.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

Oh hey, it's me. In my opinion, if you want to disengage, you shouldn't also lash out and expect to not get called out for that final lash. If I just left the accusation of me being a Trump supporter open just because you said you didn't want to argue, then that can be seen as admission of being as accused, ergo I responded to that specifically rather than continue the conversation you disengaged from.

In the future, if you want to disengage, then either just say something like "disengage" or don't respond. If you insult, you aren't disengaging, but inviting further engagement despite your stated wishes to not engage. It's like throwing a sucker punch then saying "no punchbacks."

[-] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com -5 points 1 month ago

Okay, fair. I'm fine with having been banned. You should have been banned too.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago
[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

Why even waste time on lemmy.ml?

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

If you haven't blocked .ml yet at this point, that's probably on you

[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 11 points 1 month ago

Similar to @Enkers@sh.itjust.works, I suspect I'm lacking some context here, but based purely on what I can see in this post, you came across as rather childish. I'm inclined to say YDI/BPR.

While I do agree that rule should have applied to Cowbee too, that doesn't give you carte-blanche to do the same.

Also, confronting someone you know to be a troll in an intentionally inflammatory manner, then getting annoyed that they chose to argue with you is like waving a red flag in front of a bull and being surprised it charged at you...

You baited that argument, so I don't have much sympathy for you in that regard.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

I don't follow, where is the implication that I'm a troll? OP's complaint was that me as an ML was left alone while they as an Anarchist were punished (though there was no indication that they were an Anarchist, just being pro-dem).

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 11 points 1 month ago

Lay with the tankies, get the tracks.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Fight pigs, get dirty.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

Honestly you probably deserved that one. I think a ban is a bit much but it is only 2 days and you were goading

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Forget it, Jake. It's .ml.

If you legit don't want to argue, just disengage. No one owes you silence.

I think this one might legit be a YDI, or close to it.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

There sure is a lot of arguing in these comments from someone who said they didn't want to argue.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

They don't want to argue but want to always get the last word in 🙃

[-] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com -4 points 1 month ago

Well we're not on .ml right now, so I'm fine with arguing

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ahhhh, if they'd picked a different rule to cite, it would be a YDI because the comment was borderline against rule 1. But if the mod can't be bothered to cite the right rule out of two rules total, then they're half-assing the job.

I dunno if it's a power tripping bastard. Maybe a LFB? Lazy fucking bastard? Definitely bad moderation though.

Edit: also, you double posted by accident

[-] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 6 points 1 month ago
[-] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah they really do not like it when you call out their game. It's because they actually think they are being clever and that everyone can't already see they are just Trump trolls.

[-] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 month ago

YDI.

If you post a claim or an accusation on the Internet, you're expected to back it up. If you don't want to back it up, then don't make any accusations in the first place.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

PTB, not applied consistently. But I also don't see this happening here in this case, so a dash of YDI.

All I can suggest is judicious use of the block user option.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

That’s pretty much what you can expect from .ml. Check the modlogs. SO many comments are removed that don’t even violate the rules.

Additionally, I’ll bet that it was the Jack-booted authoritarian admins that removed you and not even a mod. The mods there are powerless. Admins overrule them all the time.

You’re better off blocking that shithole.

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

PTB

.ML is cancer on a good day, literal chinese propaganda on an avg day.

Block the whole instance, nothing good comes from it.

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