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“Canada doesn’t allow American Banks to do business in Canada, but their banks flood the American Market. Oh, that seems fair to me, doesn’t it?” Trump wrote in a social media post

CNN and others debunked Trump’s claim a month ago.

“There’s nothing prohibiting American banks from operating here, including having retail branches,” Cristie Ford, a professor at the University of British Columbia’s law school, said in an email in February.

Canada tightly regulates the banking industry, and it requires various government approvals before a foreign-owned bank can open in the country. But U.S. banks have been operating in Canada for well over a century; the Canadian Bankers Association, an industry group, said in a February statement that “there are 16 U.S.-based bank subsidiaries and branches with around C$113 billion in assets currently operating in Canada” and that “U.S. banks now make up approximately half of all foreign bank assets in Canada.”

Tyler Meredith, former head of economic and fiscal policy for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, noted on social media in February that Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Citigroup, U.S. Bank, JPMorgan, and Northern Trust are among the U.S. banks with current Canadian operations. You can see the others here and here.

Meredith said in an interview that “we take a very careful look at people who want to come into our banking sector, because we consider financial services to be a core asset to Canada and to the Canadian economy” and try hard to avoid the “cascading consequences” the world has seen with bank failures in the U.S

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[-] yannic@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Make it true. Make an announcement saying we have ceded to his demands and have forbidden the banks from operating here.

[-] chuck@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

ooh oooh not before you seize the assets ... hmm need an excuse .... lets say supporting the fentanyl trade :D

[-] Bonus@lemm.ee 61 points 5 days ago

*Lie

It's not a claim. It's a lie. Come on media, you can do this.

I really, really don't think they can.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That would be an interpretation of the facts rather than a representation of the facts. Statements like that belong strictly in editorial pieces, not news. You are asking for your news to be more slanted. I'm sure you can find a left equivalent of Fox if you really try. Maybe TYT or David Pakman would suit you.

[-] Ahrotahntee@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

It's not a fact if it's false. That's not an interpretation, it's measurable.

If you're suggesting that the problem is calling it a lie implies intent then you shouldn't be calling them facts.

[-] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Fact checks for validity are not necessarily slanted, and one could argue the validity of a claim is the core of investigative journalism. Just repeating verbatim what someone said is arguably not journalism at all.

[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

You know what? If we'd editorialized the news a little more, maybe we wouldn't have an issue with ascendant fascism?

[-] Yoga@lemmy.ca 33 points 5 days ago

Here's a list of them:

Amex Bank Citibank J.P. Morgan Bank Bank of America, National Association Bank of New York Mellon Capital One, Nation Association Citibank, National Association Comerica Bank Fifth Third Bank, National Association J.P. Morgan Chase Bank, National Association M&T Bank Northern Trust Company PNC Bank, National Association State Street Bank and Trust Company U.S. Bank National Association Wells Fargo Bank, National Association

If you recognize these names, I and many others would highly appreciate you moving your business elsewhere.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

How do I choose which bank holds my mortgage?

[-] Yoga@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago

By switching at renewal.

I'm assuming you went through a broker?

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

This may be a US vs Canada thing, but here in the states, your mortgage can just be sold off to another company without your consent. Super common to sign a new mortgage, and within 60-90 days, you're already with a different company. It makes it almost impossible to dodge specific companies.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago
[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Ah, the difference is that I'm in the US. I wasn't aware of the Canadian renewal system. That sounds like it could be disastrous for buyers' interest rates.

[-] Yoga@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

If you have a US mortgage, mortgages are usually open so you would just refinance with a different institution, the penalties should be less than with Canadian term mortgages.

Depending on your rate though it would probably be a bad idea.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I do have a good rate that I don't want / can't afford to lose.

The problem is that it seems I still have no control over who holds my mortgage in the end. They can apparently just sell it to someone else whenever they want. My mortgage changed hands twice before it ended up with a specific group of fuckers that I hate.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Nope, can't be prevented in the US

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

He is known to repeat his lies over and over again until people believe them.

[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago

This is the exact play of the nazis originating from hitlers book. Weird.

Big Lie:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

About everything about the Trum-Musk-Coup is taken from the Nazi playbook.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

I'd never gone and read anything Hitler had written. Maybe it's partly the inherent inaccuracies introduced when translating something. Idk... whatever it was....that quote from Mein Kampf was absolutely insufferable. Not the topic, disgusting as it is. The...hmmm... slightly flowery, holier-than-thou-esque tone... patronising, like you'd speak to someone you think is really dumb. Which I guess probably was what was going on. Get the feeling Hitler thought he was a pretty smart cookie.

[-] imvii@lemmy.ca 21 points 5 days ago

Someone come get their grandpa. He's pooping in the flower bed again.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago

Trump would think that having standards for behaviour is a blanket ban on Americans, wouldn't he? He doesn't think highly of his people.

[-] 60d@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

They're welcome to operate here, and pretty much always have been. Originally, VP Krasnov said amongst other things like fentanyl, we have to "open up" our banking. This I read as "deregulate" our banking to allow more risky, predatory, and derivative practices which served to crash Murca in '08, making a ton of money for those involved in the ~~bailout~~ welfare payments.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

As usual, Trump opened his mouth and lies flowed out.

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago

You heard em, Canadians! Half of your banking is done in American banks. You're not going to stand for that, are you? It's time to move what you're able.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Every time Trump tells a lie, he should feel it.

[-] Yoga@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

around C$113 billion in assets currently operating in Canada

American banks are such a tiny fraction of the Canadian banking sector, they're basically a rounding error.

TD alone has $2 trillion in assets.

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

My bad, I misread what the article said. It is half of all foreign banking. Good catch.

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I understand the sentiment, but just one thing to note/point out, without argument to your point or view.

These are American business that both employ Canadian people and pay Canadian taxes. The profits are American on the one hand, but the economic stimulus to Canada is a benefit on the other hand.

Personally I am a little conflicted in this, I don't want to see Canadian people loose their jobs.

Though if a foreign owned company is operating inside of our borders with no Canadian presence this would be a no-brainer. I would probably want that type of company to double their resolve and invest in our people with in country manufacturing and production as a example.

[-] frostythesnowman@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

Folks need banking, if people stopped using these US based banks they would use Canadian ones (or those from other countries? No idea who else has banks here). There would then be pressure on the other non-US banks to have more branches to service the additional people using their services. So theoretically same number of employed people employed, just under non-US banks.

[-] Yoga@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

HSBC used to be the big foreign bank but they sold to RBC recently.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Nearly every American company we interact with employs Canadians, if you don't have the stomach for this you're not going to do well in these next years.

We should use tariff revenues as well as wealth taxes and other means of economic redistribution to protect Canadian workers but we absolutely must go after American capitalists. Do you think American companies care about their workers? Regardless of nationality?

Every Canadian employed by an American is providing more profit to that American than they're costing, that's the nature of capitalism. They employ us out of convenience or because we're cheaper to employ

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Does this mean you and I should stop shopping at stores like Walmart or Costco, The Bay, Home Depot, Lowe's?

Or can we still shop at Walmart but only buy Canadian items?

SmartCentres Real Estate Investment Trust owns the land that Walmart's operate on. They are Canadian owned and generate revenue from rent.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

There's not really a "should" here, necessarily. I think we all need to do what we reasonably can. What you're saying is true and important to remember, and a reflection of how intertwined our economies have become, but if this trend of rising tensions continues then all of that might be on the table.

At some point we may need to graduate from individual action and voting with our wallets to actual state level intervention, like asset seizure and nationalisation of certain companies or industries.

I'm pushing myself to do the most I can accommodate in my life individually, and I'm fairly well off and can afford to take financial hits in service of this, but not everyone can do that on a personal level. Canadian economic diversity is fairly poor and enriching the same handful of Canadian capitalists isn't great either, but it's the lesser evil right now I think.

Unsurprisingly with a handle like mine I'm down to eventually dismantle capitalism entirely, and at least we'll be keeping more of our labour surplus in our domestic economy.

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