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If I never have to see another "F🍁ck Trudeau" flag again, it will be too soon. (lemmy.ca)

submitted 12 hours ago by JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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Nothing says "classy" like flying that flag.

Good L🍁ck Trudeau! (But also, don't let the door hit you on the way out...)

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 19 minutes ago

But they look so good on trucks. /s

[-] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 93 points 12 hours ago

Trudeau will be remembered for many things

including all the conservatives that wanted to fuck him.

[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 3 points 53 minutes ago

Many men were disappointed when arriving at the Ram Ranch to find Trudeau wasn't there.

But they made due.

[-] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

This is in regards to our brethren down south, poking fun at 2nd amendmenters and their manly façade. Seems like cons all over the globe mostly like to larp as strong men but like if you gotta hide behind a firearm, are you really manly? 🤷‍♂️

"Hurt me but make me feel safe at the same time, you pussy liberals" https://youtu.be/TY0eUQ06Q2g

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

He is a thirst trap though even after ten years in office. He’s only 53 seems very young to retire. I’m curious to know what he does next. UN ambassador? Ambassador for Canada to France?

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

Just finding out I'm a raging conservative. Oh god, I need to sit down... On his lap...

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 33 points 10 hours ago

I loved that the original attack ad they had when he was first running for Prime Minister was that he was too young and handsome to be a leader.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 hour ago

He DID have nice hair.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

I'm embarrassed they latched onto his hair. And now, all they can say is 'carbon tax', like we're all rich enough where it's a tax and not a benefit.

[-] Isaac@waterloolemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Used to have nice hair, still does, but used to too.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 32 minutes ago

I like it a bit wilder.

[-] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago

I'll also always remember how the Liberals pulled a judo-reverse on the Conservatives by turning their main line of attack back against them. I knew from the moment I saw that ad with Trudeau on the escalator that the Liberals would win.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh, do you have a link? I'm not Canadian but that sounds interesting.

E: Nvm found it.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

found it.

Ah. YOW. Know it well.

[-] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

That's the one.

I don't know if my memory of that era comports with actual history, but this is how I remember it playing out:

It looked like the Conservative attack ads were going to win the election for them again, just as they had against Dion and Ignatieff. They were ahead and gaining in the polls, and the Liberals seemed to have no response. The slogan was, "Trudeau: he's just not ready."

Then the polls stabilized for a few days, and the Liberals released that ad. The polls started rapidly reversing, and the Liberals decisively swept into power. I don't think I even saw another, "he's not ready," attack ad from the Conservatives again after that.

EDIT: One can debate how much of an effect that ad had, and whether Trudeau's actions matched it's promises, but for me it will always stick out as a good bit of political strategy.

[-] veeesix@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 hours ago

Nice hair, though

[-] chuck@lemmy.ca 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I guess that's why the cons dumped o toole he had no hair

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago

In hindsight he was the best leader they had in a long time

But the Cons are kind of like the scorpion and the frog and I did not trust them one bit.

[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 hours ago

And for letting us down on proportional representation: !fairvote@lemmy.ca

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 minutes ago

Proportional representation is not the answer because the party system does not work to begin with.

[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 minutes ago

But proportional representation does not require political parties to be a part of the electoral system.

See single transferable vote (STV): A Simple Guide to Electoral Systems. It's still a work in progress, but lays out a good framework for discussing electoral systems.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

And for letting us down on proportional representation: !fairvote@lemmy.ca

You only think they were going to choose the most complex voting scheme out there.

[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 0 points 39 minutes ago

Can you explain more? What voting scheme did you have in mind?

[-] tehWrapper@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Saw a f🍁CK Trump flag in Canada the other day and had to do a double take. I don't like Trump, but I still don't like the flags.

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 7 points 54 minutes ago

I believe in that case, the flag is warranted.

[-] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 24 points 11 hours ago

Most of the flags around here have already been swapped for "Fuck Trump".

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago

Glad to see civil discourse making a come back.

[-] Haess@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 10 hours ago

I'm trusting he'll lead the country in the right direction through all this tariff nonsense.

[-] And009@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 9 hours ago

By leaving the office

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

It really improved his popularity.

[+] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -31 points 11 hours ago

Did you just put a conservative in power? Have you learned nothing from us in the US.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

jfc go away

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 40 points 11 hours ago

Not yet, we still have hope it won't happen.

Our system is a bit different. We elect a party and that party has a leader. The leader of the elected party is the Prime Minister. The leader can step down and the party stays in power and selects a new leader, who then becomes Prime Minister. Trudeau stepped down and his party selected Carney to replace him, so we have a new prime minister and maintain a centrist government. (Centrist to us, left wing to the US.)

We can also have elections at any time, either by choice of the party in power, or forced by the opposition parties if they have enough seats in the government. Our current party in power, The Liberals, don't have a majority, so they've been maintaining power by making deals with a left wing party (the NDP or New Democratic Party). Liberal + NDP is one seat or so from a majority right now, so they've been finding additional support from other parties. This has actually worked out pretty well, as it has forced the government to be a little more proactive and given the left a good amount of power. There is always the threat of losing power and having to make different parties happy.

If the NDP (or others) decide they don't like Carney, they can force an election and then we will have the chance of getting that Conservative government you were worried about. Most likely they will wait a bit to see how things are going before doing that because their worst fear is forcing an election and ending up in a worse position (a Conservative majority.) If you hear that Canada has a new Prime Minister named Poilievre in the next year, you'll know we just ran into the same shit you guys did.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 hours ago

Thanks for explaining that. It sounds like a better system in that you can force an election at any time. I'm jealous of that right now.

I know the PR and propaganda machines have been going after Canada. I really hope you guys don't get forced or go willingly down the same road as us. I'll be looking for that Poilievre person to not be in the running.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

you can force an election at any time.

Thing is, a government with a majority will often easily win a no-confidence kind of challenge. Especially true of conservatives, whose core strength is blind loyalty, there's no point in trying.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

You can force an election for a minority government. If one party has a majority, it can go for a while, more then four years

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago

Okay, I'm not jealous of the 4 year part unless it has some hidden benefit. Maybe moving that slow keeps it stable?

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Maybe moving that slow keeps it stable?

That's not how long it takes. We have regional non-conservatives in power here, and they seem to be launching spurious confidence challenges every week. I think their plan is to have so many that people stop showing up and supporting the evil non-cons.

[-] dom@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 hours ago

It wouldn't be a problem if we had proportional representation. In Canada, a party can get a majority government with a minority of the voting population due to how it's calculated. This often means low voter turnout because a large number of people feel their vote doesn't count.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

It wouldn’t be a problem if we had proportional representation

Is there nothing it can't do? (when all you have is a hammer, everything's a nail)

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago

So you have the same problem as us. I think in the olden days, our corrupt politicians and elites colluded with the world's corrupt politicians and elites, and had a good laugh how they set it up in their favor.

[-] SGforce@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 hours ago

Election hasn't happened yet but Trudeau is stepping down.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 hours ago

Oh, got ya. It hasn't happened yet. Good luck to you fighting our stupid economic wars that we, the US, are certain to lose.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 59 minutes ago

economic wars that we, the US, are certain to lose.

Any victory will be pyrrhic. Maybe we're hoping to pick up a state or trade for Alberta. ;-)

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