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Anon is tired (lemmy.ml)
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[-] MrSnowy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Hot take: corporatism and infotainment. You control money and information, you control the world.

[-] Facky@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Corporatism=literally capitalism

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

It's literally just capitalism, Marx called this alienation under capital

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago
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[-] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago
[-] Potfarmer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Next year will mark my 16th year voting for democrats, all they do is kick the can and move the line. While I don't think there is anything wrong with saying don't vote conservative, I do think it's a bit like saying "CLOSE YOUR WINDOWS" when a tornado is coming. We're screwed regardless of who we vote for, the only thing that changes is the rate at which we're screwed; that is why Anon is sick of life.

[-] 0ddysseus@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Democrats are also conservatives. If you allow the oligarchs and aristocrats to choose who represents you then they will always choose candidates who rule in their interest. You can't change this system by playing within the ruleset you're given. Democratic power can only ever be wielded by unions of workers and communes of citizens. Those organizations combine and concentrate the power of regular people and can effectively wield this against the ruling class.

[-] rubpoll@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Where did we go wrong?

The bad guys won the Cold War.

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

The question "Where did we go wrong?" being asked on 4chan in /b/ is funny to me.

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago
[-] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

so many people are getting to the point that they can identify that capitalism has caused human society to self-digest and go to shit, yet so many will give the most asinine dog-brained reasons as to why. It's reassuring to see people starting to wake up but frustrating to see them groggy, incoherent, and still half-asleep. 95 times out of a hundred they'll blame "corporatism" or welfare queens or race mixing or overpopulation or some shit and it's just exhausting

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[-] SeatBeeSate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I wonder if it has anything to do with the system we've built to buy and sell products, owning, trading and hoarding capital? No, that can't be it...

[-] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

The constant revamping of the production process, the uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, and the everlasting uncertainty and agitation of society distinguish the bourgeois era from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relationships, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away. All new-formed relationships become outdated before they can solidify. All that is fixed melts into air, all that is sacred is profaned, and people are at last compelled to face with sober senses their real conditions of life, and thier relations with each other.

-Some guy, in some manifesto, in 1848

[-] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

The purpose of your life is to be a productive asset for people who make their living owning productive assets. They are in charge of the government and the economy and will never vote themselves out. They will kill to maintain their status as owners of productive assets because they do not want to become owned by someone else. They do spend a lot of time making sure you're over stimulated because not only do you make the product for them you also buy the product from them. You're a little blood bag in multiple ways and they are leeches.

They need you to vote for them, to make their actions legitimate so the whole thing doesn't erupt in violence and get them killed. The most effective way to do that is to build a bunch of windmills at which you'll tilt. They can't make you hate other people for owning productive assets, so they have to come up with other reasons. And those reasons also have to work in their favor, as in make you hate their competition and enemies. You hate their enemies, who also own productive assets, but you hate them for largely abstract reasons detached from the actual reality of your exploitation. This dissonance creates malaise unless you feel like you're discovering a deeper truth by buying into more propaganda. You get on another dopamine treadmill which ultimately leaves you unsatisfied no matter how angry you get. Because it's never about recognizing your actual situation.

They need you to keep making product for them, because if you run out of product to make, they lose their livelihood. You also need to keep buying product. They sell you everything you need, making sure there's as many people between it and you as possible, each extracting some profit. This causes friction which causes malaise. Once everyone has everything they need, they don't sell as much product. This is bad so they invent need, they try to make you want stuff so you keep buying. This means they need more productive assets like yourself, this grows their empire. They come up with more abstractions for why you're unhappy and how buying product will satisfy you. But with the accumulation you are still left unfulfilled.

This isn't new and owning productive assets isn't as profitable as it used to be. You need more and more to make the same amount of money, to keep the same amount of power. So the expansion and accumulation of more involves people like yourself being made miserable. They need war to go into other places and take over those productive assets. They need you to be on board for war so they have to demonize the other productive assets like yourself. They need you to fight in the war so you lose your friends and family. But to make up for that they abstract that exploitation away with fictions as well.

A society that allows a few people to collectively own all or most productive assets (ie, labor) will always result in this malaise. It will never bring you contentment. And if, by some chance, you get to own productive assets are now happy because you're free from being owned, millions of others will take your vacancy from the working class. So you're happy but they are not and their discontent will ultimately bring conflict, which makes you unhappy again.

Human experience is not profitable, or I should say, it is. As you've noticed, the amount of human experience you can afford or make time for is almost none. Your entire human experience is consumption and production. Even when you have fun you must consume product. You must pay a series of people who own the productive assets that produce your enjoyment. Reality is not helpful to the owners of productive assets. It just gets in the way.

You can't imagine an alternative because the prospect of another promise of freedom from being owned is just too scary. You're better to go with the devil you know.

You're not unhappy because you're possessed with bad spirits. You're not unhappy because of some abstraction living across the ocean that exists to threaten your other coveted abstractions. You're unhappy for a precise and easily explainable material reason. That reason is that you are exploited and are actively prevented from stopping it. You are manipulated into believing that exploitation is actually freedom. So in chasing freedom you either further exploit yourself or exploit others, adding to the general friction of society and life, causing misery.

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[-] I_like_cats@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

We consume pseudo-food, watch pseudo movies and participate in pseudo sports, heck even pseudo politics. Why pseudo? Because everything is made as cheap as possible and to distract us from the suffering that capitalism brings us so that we won't rise up.

Examples:

  • Our vegetables are genetically modified so that they grow bigger but they can't reproduce anymore and the seeds are copyrighted.
  • The movies that are watching are catered to the mainstream and don't even really get a message across. Marvel movies try to tell us that rich people with power will save the world
  • Football games are there to distract people "give them bread and games and they will never revolt"
  • The people at power, through massive propaganda, seperate our people into left and right. These two parties will then fight eachother instead of realizing who is really opressing us
[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Capitalism is tearing me apart Lenin!

[-] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Everything is about money, not about having an actual human experience.

Human experience is still there, everywhere. You have to make the effort to get out of your burrow and do things outside with physical people.

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

It's called alienation under capital

[-] ineedaunion@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Like we can afford burrows.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Welcome to being poor .... I mean poor poor ... not the kind of poor where you can't afford a Lamborghini ... the kind of poor where you no longer have any luxuries like being able to go to the movies.

Where life is a constant hassle and struggle to survive. And where you constantly have to fight to stay above water. A kind of life where someone is constantly either trying to screw you, is screwing you or has screwed you. A kind of life where you no longer trust the people you see, the people you meet, or the people you live with. A kind of life where you know from the time you are born that everything and everyone will be hard.

I grew up like that and it became a normal part of life.

I learned to make a bit of money and survive and I've done good but not great ... good enough to travel the world. It gave me the insight that the majority of the world is poor ... I thought that before but after traveling, I realized just how true that really is.

The world we're complaining about now is the world that most of the world already knows.

Welcome to being poor and hopeless.

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