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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's a nice thought, but unless toppling Tesla also somehow reverses destruction of the public education system, and also something about the complex systematic, and very much intentional, polarization of individuals through social media feeds then this won't stop Republicans or Russia in the end.

[-] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago

Think of it more as exercise. It takes a bit for people to get rolling. If we can take down tesla, then we learn we can do more. Revolution doesn't start at the finish line.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This exactly, and more people need to understand it. A one day boycott of Amazon doesn't do much to Amazon, especially since many people will simply defer spending to the next day. What it does do is give a simple goal for people to participate who haven't done this sort of thing before. Then you expand it to longer time periods and more targets.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

The current Amazon boycott is 7 days and isn't over until the 14th, BTW.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'm just saying we need to know the route to run the marathon, otherwise we shouldn't expect to win any prizes by the end of it.

Defeating Putin, Trump, and Elon Musk is going to have specific steps to accomplish. Educate, Organize, and Unify opposition, and this will absolutely involve playing politics which a lot of people abhor. This isn't one of those "hit problems with club until it stops moving" scenarios. At least not until we take away the enemy's bigger club.

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[-] casmael@lemm.ee 24 points 3 weeks ago

Idk man melon seems pretty upset rn I’d say carry right on chaps looks like you’re going the right way o7

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Right, Twitter should be in there too.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Also worth noting, Tesla’s stock price skyrocketed when it was made clear Elon would take over the government. It is now basically back to where it was before this.

I will get excited when it starts losing years worth of value.

[-] Nay@feddit.nl 4 points 3 weeks ago

Not with that attitude!

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[-] fin@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It shouldn't be Russians, but Putin

Edit: You know what, some Russians are good people. Not everyone in Russia is a bootlicker

[-] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Of course this is true but when youre in a conflict you dont have the luxury of making distictions.

This is like Americans reminding us 'not all Americans are like this'. Its like, yeah bro we know but your country is actively threatening ours, so tough.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 points 3 weeks ago

Not saying every Russian is bad, and they're obviously victims of lies and propaganda... But still. Don't they overwhelmingly support the invasion of Ukraine? That's like if most Americans were fine with us violently murdering, raping, and torturing our bloody way through Canada (please let this not happen)...

[-] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

I mean there are a massive amount of people in America in complete support of the genocide in Gaza. But I guess the analogy doesn't work for Americans because the children dying are brown.

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[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 weeks ago

I'm really confused as to why 'Russians' are generalized as the last domino here

Like, could have easily been 'Putin', but even then are we content with stopping at removing despots? Let's at least aim a bit higher, maybe 'oligarchy', or even 'capital owners' if we're being ambitious.

[-] toxiczombie@lemm.ee 17 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. I've no problem with the Russian civilians as an American. But I do have a problem with Putin as he seems intent to make himself everyone's problem just like our wannabe dictators.

Fuck Tesla. Fuck Elon. Fuck Trump. Fuck corpo pigs

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago

Capitalism. Everyday russians have nothing to do with the problem.

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Because for a disturbingly large segment of the American population, the Cold War staying cold made it not really register as over.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

It should say Kremlin, imo.

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[-] SolidShake@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

man. i dont think any of this would be happening if people weren't fucking lazy and just voted in November. like god damn who cares if the line is long for one night.

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 weeks ago

There are numerous ideological and philosophical frameworks that attempt to explain how fascism takes rise, so why do you just blame it on laziness?

Did Hitler come to power because of German industrialization, German embarrassment from WWI, the great depression, and other global economic hardships, or did Hitler come to power simply because Germans were lazy and didn't vote?

Our turn towards fascism was inevitable, and it can be explained better than with some nebulous concept of "laziness".

At the very minimum, start asking yourself why Americans are not enthusiastic about voting.

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[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 21 points 3 weeks ago

They purged voter roll, but only for democrats.

Technically legal.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

That happens every single election. How about, instead of attacking people who are rightfully unconvinced this system works, you attack the people actually doing the fascism.

You’re like a fuckin’ Russian bot, only helping to divide. Fuckin’ dumbass democrats, man. This is why you lose.

[-] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You insult this person and accuse them and dividing, only to say "fuckin Democrats, this is why you always lose".

Who's dividing here again, chum? Practice what you preach

I'm not a Democrat and I share their sentiment.

80 million of y'all didn't show up and instead of looking at ourselves, we just blame the Dems for not matching our purity politics enough.

80 million didn't show. They had weeks to turn in a vote via mail or just finding a local place to do it.

We all had options. 80 million decided to do nothing and they share just as much the blame and anyone for this.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

It’s a common democrat knee jerk reaction to blame anyone but the perpetrators, that’s why. It’s course correcting.

And show me an election that doesn’t have similar numbers of non-voters. They aren’t to blame. People vote when they get inspired. And not being another person is not very inspiring.

They were supposed to vote to save what? As far as I can tell, the vast majority of people are struggling and want change. People are on the edge and are kept just complacent enough to not fall off.

I’ll say it again: Keep blaming the nonvoters and you will continue to lose. INSPIRE THEM INSTEAD.

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[-] dumpsterac1d@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

It's really just X. Focus on X imo.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

You mean Twitter, right?

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Swap Republicans and Trump

Trump basically is the republican party anymore

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[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

This cartoon could be done in reverse with Russian Dolls.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

lol nested dolls where the little one is Putin.

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[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago

Which foreigners are we gonna decide is the reason the US isn't a democracy to hide the fact the state is owned by the ruling class next? I vote for going back to the Japanese

[-] bishbosh@lemm.ee 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I bet it's gonna be China, they've been setting that stage for years

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You even see people eating it up on Lemmy.

Since some people in this thread need to hear it: China is not your enemy

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Until my fellow citizens have their basic needs met I will assume anyone not actively working towards that goal is my enemy. Rich people in China are gaming the system to consolidate wealth just like our billionaires are. That doesn't make them worse or better than us but in the context of my immediate concerns it makes them less relevant.

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[-] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's Arabs and Muslims this time. And the queer community as always. And obviously any commies that try to organize and resist.

And the Zionist Christians that run this country will absolutely love to deport the Jews to Israel.

And it'll just continue to anyone "unAmerican"

"The Nazis never really went away"

[-] europeanfan122@lemm.ee 13 points 3 weeks ago

I’m doing my part!

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I'm pretty sure those dominoes are falling the other way.

[-] Ithorian@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

This is not about money anymore

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