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Banned from 196 for thinking 'the tankie triad' is a silly name (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by Diva@lemmy.ml to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Hi all, thank you for reading my post. modlod link

In the 196 sub an OP was asking for advice on how to change their friends opinions which they disapprove of, because they were trying to warn them off of 'the tankie triad' and their friend didn't have any issues with what they were seeing and was in fact subscribed to a number of instance already.

Clocks got banned first after suggesting that the OP try to be a genuine friend and try to find some common cause in real life rather than alienating people over abstract geopolitical factionalism:

[> The original post feels like bait, but here is an authentic response.

Maybe genuinely be their friend instead of alienating them based on political flavoring. Perhaps you can be better working together to help others in your locality or communities than squandering over geopolitical matters. Swallow your frustrations, being annoyed is a part of being in a community. You can move on. ](https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?commentId=13347091)

I raised the issue that censoring earnest advice as 'tankie apologia' and preemtively writing off any common cause/ isolating people is no way to win people over either as friends or comrades.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if 'genuinely be their friend' is 'tankie apologia' to be censored, I'm not sure you're going to be very successful convincing anyone of anything in the real world.

I then got banned for this one, for continuing to find 'the tankie triad' extremely silly:

yeah that's the context, I was just laughing because:

  1. only Lemmy users with an axe to grind call them that
  2. it sounds really silly, like they're a nemesis to dr venture.
  3. I'm supposed to be the melodramatic one yet every day I get one-upped 😔

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I'm not here to tell them how to run their comm, my position is that this is way more draconian than anything I've run into in any of 'the tankie triad'. The same groups of people loudly complaining about censorship on 'tankie' run instances don't seem to have a problem enforcing vague/arbitrary vibes based censorship in their spaces.

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[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

YDI you went to a thread with a specific anti-tankie topic in a comm that is explicitly no tankies

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 day ago

The definition of 'tankie' is pretty clearly arbitrary and vibes based. I'm an anarchist, I've organized with anarchists for years. Sorry if I don't pass some terminally online litmus test.

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[-] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

YDI.

Lemmy.blahaj.zone specifically is for trans folks. You're not going to make friends there defending authoritarianism, and it's part of their actual rules.

They also ban based on what your account does outside of their instance, and more than just this specific instance has you defending tankies (and it looks like, on cursory glance, you identify as one) so that would lead to a banning.

Don't worry though, there are a lot of folks banned from there who are sour about it who'll be along shortly to say PTB.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lemmy.blahaj.zone specifically is for trans folks.

yes I know, I'm trans.

it looks like, on cursory glance, you identify as one

I'm an anarchist, I organize with anarchists, have done so for years. This level of dogmatism as 'anti-authoritarianism' I have only run into in a handful of online spaces.

[-] GoldenCow@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

PTB this mod has not even read their own sidebar!

Assume the best, but don’t tolerate sealioning/just asking questions/concern trolling.

Don’t rush mod actions. If a case doesn’t need to be handled right away, consider taking a short break before getting to it. This is to say, cool down and make room for feedback

Send users concise DMs about verdicts about them, such as bans etc, except in cases where it is clear we don’t want them at all, such as obvious transphobes. No need to notify someone they haven’t been banned of course.

Explain to a user why their behavior is problematic and how it is distressing others rather than engage with whatever they are saying. Ask them to avoid this in the future and send them packing if they do not comply.

First warn users, then temp ban them, then finally perma ban them when they break the rules or act inappropriately. Skip steps if necessary.

[-] will_steal_your_username@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I replied in the other post, but I did indeed follow the guidelines (I should know, I wrote them!)

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The rules are pretty loose, I did get one DM, though this bit at the end opens up a lot of room for arbitrary/vibes based enforcement:

Skip steps if necessary.

I guess 'it was necessary'

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It's right there in the sidebar:

Proselytization, support, or defense of authoritarianism is not welcome. This includes but is not limited to: imperialism, nationalism, genocide denial, ethnic or racial supremacy, fascism, Nazism, Marxism-Leninism, Maoism, etc.

Tankies are defined as authoritarian "communists"

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social -3 points 1 day ago

That's fine. Except the posters in question were not supporting authoritarianism at all, they were suggesting that one gets more flies with honey than with vinegar in trying to convince those who do believe in or support authoritarianism that their position sucks.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Vibes based, I spoke up for Clocks who had offered earnest and positive advice for interacting with people you disagree in real life, without alienating them. If you treat all real life interpersonal interactions like an online purity test I can see why you spend so much time here worried about 'tankies'

tbh you lot are exhibiting behavior I normally see reserved for cults.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

"Vibes based" hilarious considering I've been collecting actual hard documentation of what y'all say and do, and it's right in line with the definition of a tankie

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago

I’ve been collecting actual hard documentation

😳 are you posting from the blackout van that's been parked up the street from me?

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