I hope they make it in time for Debian 13 to include it.
Should be.
3.0.0 RC3 is already the version being used in the Trixie (Testing) repo, and there's a little under 30 days now to release the final version before the soft freeze next month.
This is good news. There are a lot of great FOSS alternatives on Linux, but raster editing is one of the last few blind spots, I've found.
- Krita is designed more for painting,
- MyPaint also seems designed more for digital artwork (and, perhaps just in my experience, but it also seemed rather unstable and kept crashing)
- KolourPaint is very barebones (seems to be much more a replacement to MS Paint than anything else, so can't really blame it for that)
- Inkscape is a vector editor. 'Nuff said.
- Pinta is the closest to Paint.\NET you're gonna get on Linux, except it's based on before the latter went closed-source (bastard...) and as such it's not as feature-complete as Paint.\NET is.
GIMP, meanwhile, doesn't even have nondestructive editing and also can't draw basic shapes (like squares, cylinders, etc.), can't seemingly rotate layers without opening the [floating RMB menu] > Layer > Transform > Arbitrary Rotation
dialog window, and good GOD the floating menus can go fuck themselves. How I hate the floating menus. Did I mention the floating menus suck? Not sure if I mentioned that.
Anyway, this switch to 3.0 is really needed and I'm genuinely excited to see the changes it brings, to the UI and the UX in particular.
Just a shame that they're switching over to GTK3 when most other developers seem to be transitioning to GTK4.
I think you will find progress accelerate with the release of 3. They did a lot of groundwork and factoring, it's one of the reasons it took so long. But now that the work is done, it will allow for more rapid changes in the future. I'm hoping it will be kinda like Blender 2.8 or Godot 3.
Oh that's good! Thanks for laying that out for me. And, please, don't take what I say as bashing the one guy who's working on this (at least I hear it's only one person). I think for a single person it's incredible what they've gotten to, and I salute them for that. I was merely explaining it from an objective viewpoint. I have very little but respect for the guy behind it all.
Improvements to the UI & lossless editing are nice, 20 years too late, but nice. Outside of that we are still 19 years behind PS, feature parity is impossible, anywhere near the same productivity is impossible :/
Feels like the foss community is a bit unlucky with gimp, there are so many truly great productivity tools outside of this one area.
Exactly.
And even with the stuff it can do takes 10x longer to do than with most other raster editing software because the UI and UX is so darn convoluted. Like, seriously, I want to like GIMP, but frankly I and most people in fact ain't gonna spend 10 minutes trying to figure out how to rotate a layer. Lol.
Frankly, at this point, I just wish Paint.\NET was able to be run on Linux, but I believe it still uses some Windows-specific components—can't remember what they are—that can't quite yet be replicated properly using Mono. (Might be some Windows-specific DLLs? Idk.)
Just a shame that they’re switching over to GTK3 when most other developers seem to be transitioning to GTK4.
The switch from GTK3 to 4 won't be as much work as they did with the recent GIMP 3 update. Because they did more than updating GTK, like lot of ground work and basically a rewrite of most basic stuff and adding new functionality. So don't be fooled by the idea it would take ages to update to GTK4, at least it won't take as much time as GIMP 2 to GIMP 3 update.
Oh I did not realize that! Excellent. :)
I mean, it has been about to come out for about a decade. But I think the last few releases were release candidates for 3.0.
Yes, that's right. It looks like the actual 3.0 release is about to happen though 😊
aaaaaaany moment. Iam running RC3 and its pretty solid.
Me too! I can't wait 🪇
Oooooh, can't wait to see the new features!
[what? there is no new features...?]
Can't wait to see the new splash screen! 😇
I think the release date is on the 16th, they’ve had a couple rounds of RCs and it seems like it’s finally happening!
These last two comments seem to point that way:
https://discourse.gnome.org/t/gimps-master-branch-string-freeze/22895/22
Aw great now that I'm finally starting to get used to using GIMP 2... /s
Opensuse already updated to 3.0rc some time ago
does it come with CMYK settings yet, or did that already happen in a past release i missed?
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