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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee to c/pcmasterrace@lemmy.world

I'm concerned since my 2080ti is idling at 58c. I have that intake right next to an exhaust and I'm not sure.

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[-] Tolstoy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What's the thing between the PSU and the GPU?
And what's the orientation of the fans?

The main question is: does your GPU have a no fan idle mode? AFAIK the fans won't spin till the GPU reaches 60°C and cool it back down to 40 or 45, sorry can't remember.

Usually you want to have a 3 intake at the front panel and 2 exhausts, one at the back inline with the CPU cooler and one at the top as far behind as possible. Since you're running, what looks like, a mini tower you can with the same layout as a midi but 2+2 (2 intake front, 1 exhaust back, 1 exhaust top far behind). For a positive pressure you can mount an additional fan on top, at the front as an intake.

For the best result you should take your time and fiddle around, measure and document

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

That thing is a 3d printed anti sag brick lol.

The GPU fans spin around 55ish.

Oh! So if I flip the top front fan around it'll work out better? Or should I just take that one off entirely?

I want all the fans filled if I could. But I'm okay even 3d printing air guides to move air along or prevent it from getting in specific places.

[-] Tolstoy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

The anti sag brick looks nice but is restricting airflow from the side, if you can look for a stand for the corner of the GPU.

You don't have to populate all available fan slots. I would recommend you to remove the bottom one entirely, even if your PC is on top of a table and dust isn't a problem, this fan redirects a lot of the air, coming from the front 2, slightly up to the CPU.

The problem with the top one is, even if you rotate it to be an intake, it could push the air, coming from the front, down away from the CPU flow.

Short: try and simply remove the bottom and the top front one entirely.

Like someone already stated, you want the air to move linearly from one side to another.

I don't recommend to use air guides since they can create pressure points and block other components. Components like RAM, VRMs and drives also need some fresh air.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Yea I guess you're right about the anti sag brick. But it does have a bunch of speed holes in it I thought would be enough. I really don't like the column antisag methods.

Ill disconnect the fans you all have recommended and report back.

Thanks this is my first small case like this. Usually I either have a big fuck all case or one of those mini ITX cases that you put the GPU on the back side of the mobo.

[-] Tolstoy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

So how did it go? Were you able to bring down the temps?

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Ah! I was just about to update everyone. I repasted my 2080ti, and used 3 thermalite 92mm low profile fans. That brought the temps down to 66 under max graphics benchmark on Rainbow 6 siege!

Mission accomplished boys!

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

85 thermal throttle on 2080ti

[-] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The trick with cooling is to ensure you have a smooth flow of air from one part of the case to the other, preferably opposite sides. Make sure your CPU coolers are blowing in the same direction as well.

It's a little difficult to see from this image, but it looks like you have almost all your fans - intake and outlet - on one end of the case. This could create a big dead zone at the rear of your case. Especially for your GPU, sandwiched between CPU cooler and PSU. What I would do is move one or more of those fans to the rear, make sure front, rear, and CPU fans are all blowing in the same direction, and see if that helps any.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

I have 3 exhaust. (2 top 1 back) And 3 intake 1 bottom 2 front.

That's kinda what I'm concerned about is the dead air

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That thing on the GPU is a anti sag bar I printed it. Front and bottom are intake. Top and back are exhaust. Everything is supposed to be going front to back. I think the top corner fans are creating a dead zone.

I can rearrange my fans to see if that helps. It's a small case so not many options for configuration.

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago
[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago
[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Hmmm....yes. Maybe I could mount some 10mm raspberry pi fans in some spare gaps

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

IANA science person or wind expert, but I would test what effect removing/disabling the bottom intake has. Right now it could be pushing fresh air up and diverting it somewhat before it gets to the GPU intake (hard to say for sure based on just the 1 photo)

[-] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Two observations:

  1. Your fan layout in your case is not optimal.
  2. Your GPU idle is high, but not dangerous.

Fan layout in a PC is very straightforward - cold air in, hot air out. You want the airflow to be constantly moving and not choking. So first off, good on you for trying to balance the count of intake fans vs count of exhaust fans. I noticed in your observations that you're wondering if your exhaust fan is detrimental - you are correct. The problem is that you are exhausting cold air before it even reaches your PC components. A common problem I see with inexperienced builders is that they try to fill as many slots as they can with fans. More fans doesn't equal more cooling. Remove the top exhaust fan that is closest to the front intake (i.e., the top right exhaust fan as it is exhausting cold air). For your last top exhaust fan, move it as far left as you can (so it sits in the top left corner of your case, basically behind your CPU cooler). With this adjustment, cold air goes in and actually gets to reach your CPU cooler, and then all the hot waste air is optimally pulled out of the top left corner of your case (via both the rear case fan and the top exhaust fan).

For your GPU, based on reviewing your comments in this post, I assume you're probably an inexperienced/new PC gamer. And that's totally fine of course. Thermal Junction temperature of a GPU is generally certified by the manufacturer to reach 100-110 C. This of course is entirely dependent on the manufacturer, so check your GPU make/model, go to their web site, and look at the certified operating temperatures. Ideally, keep the hottest point of the card much colder than that. If your GPU is idling at 58, start by increasing your fan curves for your GPU. In general, you want more fan speed for higher load. Do your best to try to target ~70-75 F when doing heavy gaming (gpu temp 70-75 F, Tjunction and mem < 90 F) depending on the games you play.

My recommendations:

  • Inspect your GPU for wear/issues.
  • Clean your PC from dust. Blow canned air (or get a computer duster) through the GPU fans and heatsink and try to get rid of as much dust as possible. If you use a computer duster, make sure to hold the fans still as you blow through them, or else you can make them spin faster than the bearings can handle, which will damage the fans.
  • Set a proper GPU fan curve to balance noise and cooling.
  • It's okay for your card to get hot as these cards can go up to 100 F, but it is ideal for longevity to keep it much cooler
  • Optimise your case fans to have curves. Ideally, bind the case fans to the GPU so that when the GPU ramps up, the case fans ramp up too. If for any reason you can't bind your case fans to the GPU, instead whenever you play an intensive game, just manually increase the fan speed to something like 1200 rpm just to bring more air in). Ideally for noise and airflow when doing general computing, your case fans don't need to spin fast at all - I keep mine around 700 rpm.
  • Balance your case fan speeds to match 1:1. In my above recommendation, you eliminate one exhaust fan so you are left with 2 exhaust and 3 intake. That's okay. The ideal for case airflow is neutral air pressure (the same amount of air brought in will leave the case at the same rate), but the alternative less-ideal situation is positive air pressure (air comes in faster than you can exhaust it). However, be careful when balancing positive airpressure airflow. If you have way too much air coming in (e.g., 2000 rpm intake fans running at 100%) vs being exhausted (e.g., exhausting at 20% fan speed), you end up hurting airflow. What happens is you ram too much into the computer, and it has nowhere to go because the exhaust fans can't keep up with how much is coming in. Eventually, the hot waste air from your PC components ends up getting mixed in with the cool air over time, and you end up with a hot box. Eliminate this problem by having the exhaust fans run at the same speed as your intake fans - always.
  • And finally, make sure you have an airflow-friendly case. I don't know what case you're using, but as long as it's not a bad case with filters or obstructions that choke airflow, you should be good. I've been using a Corsair 5000d airflow for several years now, but there are much newer cases that are better for airflow.

When you become more advanced:

  • Do not do this part until you have experience and know-how!
  • Disassemble your GPU, repaste it, and consider replacing the thermal pads if they're worn.
[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Ah! I was just about to update everyone. I repasted my 2080ti, and used 3 thermalite 92mm low profile fans. That brought the temps down to 66 under max graphics benchmark on Rainbow 6 siege!

Mission accomplished boys!

[-] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Nice work! Glad you’ve sorted it out!

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yep! Now to uninstall rainbow 6 and get back to playing FTL at 60fps locked, windowed 720p. Lol

I also did the fan config like you suggested. I may even take the top exhaust fans off all together.

this post was submitted on 17 Mar 2025
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