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[-] rex_meatman@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Can’t we just harvest the states that want to leave?

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

Guys guys guys, let's be good friends with the EU, let's even adopt some of their best policies, but honestly, they also have some baggage we don't need.

[-] Taiatari@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 2 days ago

Believe me, we don't want Orban either..

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[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 21 points 2 days ago

#canadentry

Can we Philadelphians join?

👀

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[-] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 10 points 2 days ago

I'm super jealous because I've wanted to have Canadian citizenship since back in my late teens / early adulthood when I realized that there was already a version of America that actually lived up to American ideals and which offered same-sex marriage as well as universal healthcare. That weed and apparently codeine are legal there make it so much more bittersweet.

The only people I've known personally to get citizenship are those who married a Canadian citizen. Which sucks for me because I'm already happily partnered and there's no way I'd give that up for anything, not even Canadian citizenship, awesome and appealing as it is.

[-] drthunder@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago

Maybe if/when the US invades, if we fight for Canada they'll give us citizenship.

[-] silverlose@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

FWIW I obviously don’t have the power to approve that but I would certainly vote to make that a thing!

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[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago
[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 days ago

I'm not sure why I keep seeing this posted, like it's some sort of gotcha. It doesn't mean our other elections would have to change, just the brand new representatives to the EU.

The vote for liberal leadership used Preferential Voting where you could indicate more than one preference.

[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

It's not about being a "gotcha" - it's about demonstrating a pathway to better democratic representation.

You're right that EU membership would only require PR for European Parliament representatives initially. However, this would create several significant opportunities:

  1. Practical demonstration: Canadians would experience firsthand how an electoral system that ensures every vote counts actually works, rather than just hearing theoretical arguments.

  2. Institutional precedent: Once PR is successfully implemented for one electoral body, the argument that it's "too complex" or "un-Canadian" becomes much harder to maintain.

  3. Democratic legitimacy gap: Having representatives to the EU Parliament elected through PR while our own MPs are chosen through FPTP would create an obvious legitimacy contrast that would be difficult to justify.

The Liberal leadership vote using preferential voting actually supports this point. Internal party processes already recognize the limitations of FPTP - they just don't extend those same democratic principles to the general electorate. In fact, all parties, even the Conservatives, use superior electoral systems to FPTP.

The reality is that 76% of Canadians support electoral reform according to recent polling, but our major parties benefit from maintaining a system that systematically discards votes. Exposure to functioning PR would make the democratic deficit in our current system increasingly apparent.

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[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A lot of people don’t get it until they see it in action.

My union recently had a vote about increasing health benefits. “No” won in one of the categories because there were 3 options for how much to increase it by. (Yes won by 76% while the no beat the top yes 24% to 23%)

I pointed this out at the next meeting and we had a vote and struck the no vote. Later a bunch of people said thanks for pointing that out, and my reply was “no sweat, we have the same problem with our elections.”

Then everyone applauded and Einstein gave me a piece of π. Just kidding, it was more like weird looks and a couple agreements, but I like to think I brought the issue to a few people’s attention.

[-] AChiTenshi@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

Because it's a step towards proportional representation. It would expose much more of the populace to how it's done. Hopefully getting more people used to the idea of it.

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[-] FelixMortane@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Yes please, I will vote to support this.

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