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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

No archived link. I was on vacation, so I couldn't do it at the time. I'm just going to lock it since it seems to have gone off already.

Sidenote: Are there any clients that make it easy to mod on mobile?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

thats some obama awards obama stuff right there.

The ACA blows. Here are my issues with it:

  • doesn't go far enough - I would've been better off w/ ACA if my employer didn't offer coverage (small company of <50 people), but switching would've eliminated my employer contribution and the credit
  • goes too far - too opinionated about what care counts

The proper solution IMO would've been to:

  • separate health insurance from employment - employers can offer cash incentives, but you should be able to choose if you want their group coverage or to apply the cash to your own plan
  • simplify healthcare coverage terms - most people don't understand their health coverage, though ACA plans are a bit easier to understand; they should have required all health insurance plans to simplify their coverage
  • expand Medicare/Medicaid instead of creating a new healthcare marketplace

But no, they didn't do any of that. Screw everyone involved. Republicans for neutering the bill, and Democrats for only fighting for the stuff that doesn't matter as much.

[-] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago

He's still got my vote

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago

Still a capitalist shill, eh?

[-] misteloct@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

I'd rather take this capitalist shill than the fascist shill. When Obama is right of the Overton Window middle I'd consider that a success.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 128 points 1 week ago

The ACA was the best that could be done at the time, but it is a steaming turd and needs to be replaced with Universal Healthcare.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 95 points 1 week ago

America: The best we can do is a steaming turd

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 32 points 1 week ago

But did you say thank you today to the president?

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[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago

I disagree. Democrats had the presidency, the house and the senate (filibuster proof). They chose a republican friendly solution that was just a bandaid on a broken system.

All it did was piss off republicans and give them a rallying point while doing nothing to encourage democrats to vote.

They should have had the balls to create a system that actually fixed the problems, but they didn’t.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago

controlled opposition.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

There were like one or two very conservative Dems who derailed the single payer option when they had the filibuster proof majority. The main problem is not getting a solid party wide understanding of the goals they are aiming for ahead of the chances to do something about it.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

you mean like the suddenly 10 conservative democrats who just happen to vote to allow trump to continue dismantling the government? including the democratic leader in the senate schumer? stop excusing their lack of accomplishments on a few bad applies. the bulk of the party is rotten.

It wouldnt have mattered if they had 90 members in the senate and 90% of the house they'd find the votes to prevent anything that helps the working class.

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[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 67 points 1 week ago

Thanks for dropping the “public option” after going into closed door negotiations with the insurance companies for three weeks and coming out with a mandate handing them millions of new captive market participants and putting few, very sacred few limitations or regulatory requirements for how to run their industry. Thanks for dismantling your campaign infrastructure when the GOP started playing “the heel”.

This is the reason why he stopped Bernie. He (and many others in the Democratic Party leadership) knew that only a huge populist movement like Bernie’s could tear power out of the hands of financial/industrial Oligarchs. He’s terrified that if we get some variation of universal healthcare in his lifetime, EEEEEEEVERYONE is going to go back through all that bullshit they said, all the excuses they made, and rub their faces in it. Not only that but also most of these crooked politicians are heeeeaaavily invested in the various private healthcare companies.

I am not a particularly religious person, but I know this to be true: You can’t serve two masters.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 54 points 1 week ago

The ACA is the best he could do. It’s not like a US President can just go around like a wrecking ball ignoring all established law and checks and balances.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It’s not like a US President can just go around like a wrecking ball ignoring all established law and checks and balances.

Ha... If this was sarcasm, it's been underappreciated.

[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

The Democrats briefly had a super majority in Obama's first 2 years, and could have passed universal healthcare, not this limp dick ACA stuff, but yet here we are. Stuck with a patchwork of terrible private insurance where your policy has lifetime maximums, and the shareholders can sentence you to death so that line goes up.

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[-] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago

ACA sucks, but okay. ACA was a compromise. Not an example of inspiring change.

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[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 41 points 1 week ago

"It's easy to thik that regular folks can't make a difference... but look at Luigi!"

[-] KiloGex@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

ACA was a great idea that they purposefully let the Republicans destroy. Democrats don't want progress, they just want the status quo and to be able to shrug and say, "We tried."

Cowards.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I think its fairer to say about 25% of Democratic politicians are garbage (vs 100% of republicans) but it effectively means they will never pass any kind of uncorrupted reform unless they are absolutely terrified.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

Bro literally had the votes for single payer and didn't take it.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There were a LOT of shitty liberal status-quo standards that Obama stamped down, solidified and made mandate for 8 years while paving the way for conservatism to run amuck across the country by not using his unprecedented power to actually implement and federally protect progressive politics and install judges. ACA was so watered-down from the public option we all wanted, that it was literally a plan invented by Republicans, Mitt Romney specifically.

I thought Obama was a great person, he was a great leader, he was inspiring and helped create prosperity and peace for many years. But I'm not a personality cultist, I have some serious criticisms of his presidency and how he managed the Democratic party (or failed to).

He had every opportunity to push America into a new era of social policies and protections for all people, and what actually happened is a lot of banks made a lot of money.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

He thought he could compromise Republicans into behaving, he didn't realize until it was too late that they'd never support a black man. And since the GOP knows that a black president is a possibility, they'll never allow a Democrat to bring their voice above a whisper again

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago
[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bro literally demonstrably didn't because caucusing independent Joe Lieberman voted against Public Option leaving the DNC dead in the water with 59 and a Republican Filibuster. The DNC count was 58 + 2 ind, and only for 72 days.

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Trump..... A couple of days ago I ended the federal education department. I thought I might wanna check out what the little people are thinking.

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