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In November, the UN Human Rights Office said its analysis showed close to 70% of verified victims over a six-month period were women and children .

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 19 points 1 week ago

Come the fuck on are we back to the "Hamas-run" nonsense again? Eat shit BBC.

[-] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

“Hcccccchhhhhhamas-run”

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

Why is it nonsense? Hamas has been the government in Gaza for twenty years and ran a pretty authoritarian and harsh regime. There are no institutions in Gaza run against the will of Hamas.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago

You can look it up, but short of it is that the Gaza Health Ministry's casualty numbers are very accurate and have been used by pretty much everyone since 2007, including Israel. Whenever the UN tries to count independently their numbers match up with Ministry numbers. If anything the Ministry's numbers are an undercount because they're only people who have been confirmed as directly killed by the IDF by a doctor in a hospital. People who simply weren't counted for whatever reason (usually because Israel destroyed all hospitals in the area), as well as people who starve or die to disease, are not included. This is, by the way, why estimations of the true casualty number by are always more than the official number and never less.

There are no institutions in Gaza run against the will of Hamas.

It seems the will of Hamas is to have rock-solid casualty numbers that even the most rabidly Zionist can't criticize, because if there was even a small overestimation (let alone fabrication) anywhere Israel would use that to discredit the casualty numbers and Zionists in the West will lap it up. I mean they tried anyway, but because the methodology leaves no room for criticism they got shut down pretty quickly.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

BBC is accused by Zionists all the time to be biased against them.

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The British medical Journal "The Lancet" estimated 100,000-250,000 dead and that was last year.

This is a genocide and corporate Western media is complicit.

The BBC is run by Zionists like Robbie Gibb and Raffi Berg. They are deliberately downplaying the deaths.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That estimate has turned out to be wrong. Even the author of the lancet piece distanced themselves from it.

Hamas has every reason to present a high death toll. There have been several adjustments of the numbers as well over time.

They estimate another 10k buried under the rubble.

The number of deaths has only been increasing slowly for months.

Also notable is that Hamas and the other militants have not released a number of dead combatants.

There’s enough proven death and destruction. Clinging on to false number from the Lancet is just spreading misinformation and doesn’t help Palestinians.

Why was that BBC article even linked? It’s from November last year and the numbers have changed since.

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah this is Hasbara propaganda. Nobody has dismissed the Lancet as wrong except Zionists and their lackeys.

The zionist colony has been signalling genocidal intent for 18 months and has levelled Gaza with massacres every day but apparently the death count is overstated?

There's a reason the Zios have murdered over 300 journalists. So that bots can spread doubt about the number of the dead.

[-] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago
[-] jonne@infosec.pub 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah, no way the number is that low.

[-] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s only the dead that can be named or found, there must be thousands more still stuck in all the rubble. A letter published by The Lancet even established that the death count could go as high as 186 000.

We will never now the true extent until it’s far too late.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, of course. The number was basically static for months after all hospitals were rendered inoperable, as that's where the counting was done. Probably part of the reason they were targeted.

[-] ashar@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago

The letter in the Lancet gave an estimate that comes to 23,000 dead per month in addition to the official registered killings.

[-] nadram@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

What an i missing? They also call it Hamas-run ministry in this article

[-] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

The deaths are much much higher. The IDF targets healthcare employees same as journalists. Can't count if you're dead I guess. World's most moral army, they said.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

The article is from November.

[-] Naevermix@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Hamas has proven more reliable than the IDF.

[-] nadram@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Hamas run ministry 🤣🤣

[-] markko@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Literally the first paragraph:

The UN's Human Rights Office has condemned the high number of civilians killed in the war in Gaza, saying its analysis shows close to 70% of verified victims over a six-month period were women and children.

Also see the only other comment when you posted this: https://lemmy.world/comment/15951331

[-] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

I guess the BBC insisting on stating "Hamas-run" in its titles related to this conflict is not about partiality or transparency but rather create a false equivalence with the armed forces. It’s an oversimplification aimed at creating a certain narrative, and based on multiple sources it’s a policy of theirs not to display "bias" against israel.

[-] markko@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I didn't get the impression that the other commenter was laughing about BBC's use of the term.

I assumed they were doubting the health ministry's reliability/accuracy, but maybe I've just become jaded after dealing with so many Zionazis online.

[-] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Fair point, It could be. Just know that, in any case, my comment was not directed towards yours.

I only used this opportunity to further explain my perspective regarding BBC coverage, that I wasn’t endorsing any kind of whitewashing.

[-] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Oh I understood that, but thanks for making it explicit. Very few larger media outlets have covered Palestine fairly unfortunately.

[-] nadram@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

And the title of the article?

[-] markko@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Your comment did not make clear what you found funny, but having come across so many similar comments before I assumed it was that the data was not reliable due to it being the "Hamas-run health ministry".

If you found the continued use of that term by the BBC funny, then my previous comment is irrelevant.

[-] nadram@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yes, i thought that's what happened. No worries

[-] markko@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Thanks for clearing that up haha. It's hard not to be a pessimist on the internet.

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