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Sorry if the premise is inflammatory, but I’ve been stymied by this for a while. How did we go from something like 1940s era collectivism or 1960s era leftism to the current bizarro political machine that seems to have hypnotized a large portion (if not majority) of the country? I get it - not everything is bad now, and not everything was good then. FDR’s internment camps, etc.

That said - our country seems to be at a low point in intellectualism and accountability. The DHHS head is an antivaxxer, the deputy chief of the DOJ is a far-right podcast nutball, etc. Their supporters seem to have no nuance to their opinion beyond “well, Trump said he’d fix the economy and I don’t like woke.”

Have people always been this unserious and unquestioning, or are we watching the public’s sanity unravel in real time? Or am I just imagining some idealistic version of the past that never existed, where politicians acted in good faith and people cared about the social order?

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[-] Salvia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

The comments are very interesting. I'm just an outsider looking in but isn't today's political climate in the US more of a result of more democratic voters having lost so much faith in the democratic party that the majority just stopped voting? Rather than more people turning Republican? After Biden their downfall became so apparent (does anyone best Biden in incompetence? The man could barely string words together) and Kamala just seemed like a reflection of that.

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[-] Lexam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Before micro plastics and covid, we had hook worms in the south and leaded gasoline everywhere.

[-] aaron@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Theory: this is late-stage capitalism, where the working class are so exploited and overworked that they don't know who to be angry at. Someone like Trump comes along and (falsely) mirrors their anger and they unwittingly roll out the red carpet for a fascist. I'm really hopeful that once they see what they actually voted for, they'll not be so welcoming. Trump 1.0 was absolutely nothing compared to what Trump 2.0 is going to be. There are way more puppeteers who are way more prepared this time. Shit's going down and their constituents are not the ones to piss off. Just feasting on popcorn here.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Yes

1960s leftism of having race separated water fountains?

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 months ago

Long term, Americans have been bad at making idiots feel shame for their idiocy. There is less of a societal push to make people conform to societal pressure. On one end, this leads to great creative freedom for artists. On the other end, it creates the born again movement.

Medium term, LBJ oversaw the collapse of economic leftism as he was trying to include civil rights legislation and the Vietnam War. This lead to the stagnation of American salaries, but it took a while for people to notice that quality of life wasn't improving for everyone. Also, conservatives realized they could create parallel media in a way to control public sentiment.

Short term, the Great Recession and COVID made it clear that quality of life wasn't as bulletproof as people thought. As a response, some people want to bring back "the good old days", not realizing/remembering that the good old days had a lot of bad to it that was covered up.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I blame social media. Though not specific social medias like Facebook or twitter, but the general concept of social media. I think people in general are easily manipulated in a social level (not just Americans, but everybody). But social media allows this to happen en mass and personalized to every single person. With minimal effort.

It’s almost like social media was designed specifically to enable fascist agendas.

[-] habitualcynic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I’ve lived here all my life; the answer is yes.

Source: am stupid

[-] tetranomos@awful.systems 2 points 2 months ago

between The Delectable Negro and In Defence of Cannibalism (routley. 1982): and and and and?

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