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[-] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago

The worst part is people will still vote for GOP.

[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Republicans are going to try to blame Biden for this. Not that they care about facts or reality, but two things to remember:

  1. They rejected the BIPARTISAN Senate solution to this current shutdown.

  2. The last government shutdown was the longest in our country's, when Trump was President, and Republicans controlled the Senate. Trump was very happy to shut down the government. He was having a temper tantrum because he couldn't get funding for his idiotic border wall.

[-] robo@feddit.uk -2 points 1 year ago

Republicans rejected the bipartisan solution.

I blame the Republicans too, but by definition if both parties don't support it, it isn't bipartisan.

[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I wrote "bipartisan Senate" solution.

The Republicans in the Senate signed on to it.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Taking bets now: How long before the Democrats lose their nerve and give Republicans what they want just to end the shutdown?

[-] Pseu@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

The House GOP voted down the funding bill the House GOP proposed: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4230386-house-conservatives-tank-gop-short-term-funding-bill/

They may need to make concessions to Democrats that they would otherwise not need to make to get this passed, despite having a majority of the House.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'll be happy to be wrong. Surely this time it'll be different.

[-] _Sc00ter@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they may need to make concessions to the Democrats

This feels like the only way forward, but that would mean Mccarthy would have to be bipartisan and I don't see that happening, just as much as I don't see the far right GOP conceding

[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They didn't last time.

Trump and the Senate Republicans caused the longest shutdown in history. They did it because Trump was having a temper tantrum over the fact that Democrats refuse to fund his idiotic border wall.

I don't see a wall. Do you?

No. It's because the Democrats held their ground.

[-] ensignrick@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not even the Dems, Republicans are doing this to themselves. Dems have the upper hand here.

After reading that again. Fuck, your probably right...

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago

Would a border wall get Democrat votes? No. Probably not get some Republicans. If the Republicans presented a clean bill, then I think you could win your bet.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Democrats cave when Republicans shut down the government. Stop pretending the past 30 years didn't happen.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

They didn't the last 4 that happened under Trump.

That's right. 4 government shutdowns happened under the orange turd.

They won't cave. They will watch them splinter into two camps and work with the moderate ones and get the senate one passed with a new speaker.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com -3 points 1 year ago

Democrats do not bite on poison pills. So far that's the only thing McCarthy has put on the floor and even his own caucus won't vote for them.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

I feel bad for these people and the families that depend on them. Willing and able to work but not allowed is a bad situation to be forced into.

Remind them not to vote GOP, the party who continues to fuck people over.

[-] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Damn am I just now paying attention or has the government been shut down almost every year since Trump came into office?

[-] _Sc00ter@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

No they can usually pass a continued resolution, which extends current funding levels for a specified amount of time. This usually gives them enough time to actually figure something out.

Right now is different though. There is so much infighting in the GOP that the far right wingers are holding the House hostage. They put forth a bill today (or yesterday? ) that 20 of the GOP switched sides just to make it fail (not that it would have made it through the senate and Biden threaten veto at it anyway). Theyre wasting time, and it seems the extreme rights in the GOP aren't cooperating because they want a shutdown.

[-] theodewere@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

the US government writes so many paychecks, it's hard to get an exact count

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