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[-] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Evangelicals Are Now Rejecting 'Liberal' Teachings of Jesus

"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching'turn the other cheek'[and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'" Moore said.

"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis."

[-] aviationeast@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

And people dont understand why I say the orange clown is an Antichrist and may be the Antichrist.

The doomed by a perfect circle is very disturbing accurate.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago
[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Came here to share the same article.

It's truly uncanny

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I reckon it has a lot to do with personality traits of evil people

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah, while there are a few odd specifics that line up, most of the predictions are just describing the personality traits of a tyrant.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If someone asked me what Trump sounded like I would never think about a lion. His voice is nasally and weak. That part reminded me a lot more of Hitler yelling into a microphone

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[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago

Prosperity gospel has been shitting on the red text of Christ for decades now.

Jesus hated wealth inequality. The only group he said would never enter heaven were the wealthy ("easier to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven", in other words, it isn't possible for the rich to enter heaven). Jesus also violently flipped tables and whipped the wealthy to drive them out of temples.

So conservative "Christians" abandoned the teachings of Christ many decades ago.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Not just the wealthy, but people who were using the temple as a place of business (and likely ripping people off on interest)

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The actual story of the money changers is worse than most people know.

See, as part of their religious observance, the ancient Hebrews made a pilgrimage to the Temple. This was a mandatory part of their faith, much like the Hajj is for modern Muslims.

Those who were too poor to bring their own sacrifice could buy one at the Temple, but the Temple didn't take the coin of the realm (the Roman coins), they only accepted Shekels.

So, the Money Changers. They set up in the Temple itself and were fleecing pilgrims of all their money.

In comes Jesus, who flipped tables and broke out the whip, and less than a week later he was crucified.

And this is the only part of the bible that I believe is 100% historically accurate. A peace loving Rabbi threw a fit over the Money Changers and was crucified for it.

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I had understood it to be even worse:

The sacrifices at the temple were expected to be pretty much perfect, and had to be found acceptable by the temple priests. So the merchants would get "pre-blessed" sacrifices that they would sell at exorbitant prices to the pilgrims, who would have the sacrifices they brought deemed "inadequate" by the priests.

So if you brought an animal sacrifice, you'd still have to buy another (costly) animal. If you brought money, you'd be forced to exchange it at a significant loss.

The whole thing was an obvious scam, and Jesus was killed over it (and the rest of his message). I don't believe he was God Incarnate, but I'm still a big fan of Jesus the man.

I'm pretty confident that all would have gone about the same way in this era.

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[-] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago
[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

My sister once told my mom that empathy is what's ruining this country. It's not even like it was a misinterpretation/misunderstanding, that's almost word for word how she said it. I can't fathom how someone comes to that line of thinking.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To me it feels like social darwinism mentality - the belief that helping the weak survive weakens the herd. AKA "hard choices".

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

The problem is that's actually the opposite of how that works. If you refuse to care for the weak in your community, you foster this atmosphere of sociopathy and mistrust that causes the group to destroy itself.

Why the hell do you think there are only two Sith in Star Wars?

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[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago
[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

This happened a while before he came out as a right wing nut job and was embraced by conservatives

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

He literally said this two weeks ago. " The death of the West is due to too much empathy." Paraphrased, of course.

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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I can tell you pretty easily but that won't stop you from pretending to be surprised for internet points next time

Conservative empathy is reserved only for close associations, it is a crisis management mode that modern doomteller media actively stokes with imaginary threats of immigrants and trans people so it is ALWAYS on

In times of crisis, humanity's generosity contracts as we have to do the cold calculations over limited resources and the fact that we do NOT value every person equally.

Example: If I only had enough food for me and one other person, I would not give that food to a bigot because that food is better served in the belly of a progressive

It's just that they are triggered into this mode at all times and their circle of empathy is basically only family and friends, but deep down it is always only just them if times get hard enough

You saw the same behavior in times of famine all across the world

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Proverbs 14:31 Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.

Deuteronomy 15:7 If anyone is poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward them.

Luke 14:13-14 But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.

Luke 12:15: Then he said, “Beware! Guard against every kind of greed. Life is not measured by how much you own.”

1 John 4:20 If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.

1 John 3:17 But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?

John 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Matthew 25 (separation of the sheep and the goats) is pretty much the only time Jesus straight-up threatens people with Hell, and he's basing it on the treatment of the poor, sick, and social outcasts.

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[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago

"Thou shalt not even try to be a decent person"

the 11th commandment I guess

[-] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago
[-] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

"I hate you guys, kill yourself" said Jesus probably during daylight saving time because he didn't sleep enough.

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Fair enough, that's enough to make me give up on humanity.

[-] evidences@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I hear he also dropped the n word a couple times on Twitter but he was taking Ambien so it wasn't his fault.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 week ago

Also, Jesus was so just of full love when they did the Nazi salute twice.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

The only difference between a religion and a cult is time

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

I've heard the distinction described as "it's a cult when the founder is still around making stuff up, it becomes a religion after he dies and his followers are left to continue doing that in his name."

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[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago
[-] Coil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde. She asked Trump to have mercy for immigrants and pissed him off.

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 week ago

...she's an episcopalian bishop who led trump's inaugural service, asking that he accept god's humility and share his mercy with marginalised people who fear him, specifically naming genderqueer, immigrant, and refugee populations...

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[-] Trees@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.

Daniel 11:32

He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior… He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.

Daniel 8:25, 2 Thess 2:10

… a despicable person will arise… a man of contempt… to whom the royal honor has not been rightfully conferred. He will slip in when least expected and will seize the kingdom through flattery and intrigue.

Daniel 11:21

After an alliance is made with him he will practice deception, and he will go up and gain power with a small force of people.

Daniel 11:23

He will try to change the set times and the laws.

Dan. 7:25

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Daniel 8 and 11 here are talking about a prophecy that has already “been fulfilled” - common in the Bible to make these kinds of retroactive prophecies. The bad guy being described there is Antiochus.

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

If Jesus ever returned, evangelicals will try to crucify him

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Empathy is the enemy of the the manipulative. Their shallow and transparent manipulations wont get past someone with even a small amount of it.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

True for some. Others specifically exploit your empathy by centering it on themselves, red herrings, or subverting the action it motivates.

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

So no empathy for Elon Musk and his crybaby butthurt feelings? Fine by me!

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Hearing voices from people that aren't real is a pretty serious mental condition. I'm convinced religion and all the evil committed on its behalf all just trace back to the root of shit mental healthcare.

[-] tibi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

On a similar note, the old testament had a historical purpose - to unite disparate tribes and create a national identity against the threat posed by the Assyrian and Babylonian Empires.

The new testament is just a collections of writings and letters. We have no idea who wrote them, they lied on the cover saying the texts are written by the apostles. And by a pretty arbitrary process, a bunch of priests picked their favorite writings and made them into a cannon.

If the same thing happened today, nobody would believe them outside maybe a fringe cult.

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[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Remind me which level of Hell the hypocrites are in? Is it higher or lower than the one reserved for Jesus now?

[-] Cheems@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I mean I've seen some random Instagram stuff where Republicans think that Jesus would not allow immigrants into this country. It truly is another level of delusion at this point

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[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Anyone have the background link explaining this?

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