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The point of society (media.kbin.social)
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[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

iirc the scientific consensus on when human civilization began is pinned to the era of the oldest findings of broken, then healed adult sized human bones. Meaning that at that point humanity had advanced to such an extend that they overcame the ruthless "survival of the fittest" and started helping their weak and injured.

It's quite sad imo, that thanks to capitalist exploitation we seem to be regressing even in that regard.... :/

[-] LostCause@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

It‘s to get other people to do the shit work so the upper class can enjoy their life more and live in splendour. I say that coming somewhere from lower middle class and even there it is quite obvious, like how my job is to chill in a climate controlled office, while someone else dies of heat stroke outside doing construction etc

[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

somedays it feels like a mental asylum that the inmates have taken over.

[-] anonionfinelyminced@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

The uncertainties of existence make people seek out an authority to provide safety. Unfortunately, that authority needs to make difficult decisions without the normal emotional fallout that would cause most people psychological harm, so the ones most suited for it are sociopaths. Sociopathy (a tendency toward lack of empathy, including -- in some cases -- even the desire to cause others psychological or physical pain) is an aberration. Perhaps it's even a disability in the sense that persons are not "neurotypical" and therefore require special consideration. Unfortunately, the culture greatly rewards sociopathic behavior, so not only do they gravitate towards positions of power, they are sometimes propelled toward them.

So, in short, you're right.

[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

People are not a monolith. Some of them want a leader who is empathic, honest, and rational. Some people are selfish with an 'us v/ them' mindset. Some people will exchange safety for liberty, some the opposite.

When social systems become corrupt, when power & control instead of humanity becomes more important, then sociopaths rule.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thing is capitalism hasn't become corrupt, it's a feature, not a bug.
And when a system not only encourages and rewards selfishness and lack of empathy, but depends on it to exist, it isn't surprising that some people use that to their advantage.
And fuck them for screwing others over.
But that doesn't mean mental illness is to blame, it is capitalism that cultivates the ruthlessness. If people were to try and hoard all of the resources and fuck over all their tribemates (or neighbours, friends, and family? Or comrades?) they'd quickly get put in their place (and/or provided with mental health support if needed) and if they continued they'd eventually get thrown out of the community, not allowed to take it over. Because people aren't naturally selfish like capitalism tries to convince us we are.

[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

You are right. To add to it, capitalism leads to authoritarianism which leads to dictatorship and slavery.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly right.
It's suffering all the way down, it feeds on it.

[-] MemeCollector@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Seems a little ableist, that.
From my experience, I would trust a mental patient a million times more than I would a politician or a capitalist.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Certainly the reason we join together in groups is to spread out risk and reward for common safety and security. Over time we also have gained efficiencies with division of labor that is going to bring some striation but we really need to keep it to a minimum so that we do not risk the reason we came together to begin with.

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