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[-] einlander@lemmy.world 68 points 2 months ago

Time for the rich to buy stocks on discount.

[-] Sibshops@lemm.ee 34 points 2 months ago

Assuming the US can recover...

[-] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

Normally Trump does what's best for the ultra wealthy, but de-dollarization of the world economy appears to be good for nobody in the USA. I have no clue what they're trying to do, I suspect he's just lost it and there's nobody left to tell him these tariffs hurt his croneys too.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if we're already too far along to save the dollar's position globally. Globally that's probably a good thing, but for any of us in the US it's decidely not.

[-] imrighthere@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 months ago

I have no clue what they're trying to do

They published it online. project 2025. They straight up told you what they're going to do. Add in pooty, whose goals align a great deal, and that's it. How do people still not get this, they told you what they're doing.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

As confusing as it is this does still all fit into Theil’s plan to isolate the US in order to create a corpo-fascist state and bring back apartheid.

[-] andyquest@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

Idk, when do they buy? This shit has to go way more south before our dear great leader decides to undo the tariffs, right? And if he doesn't undo them, when would it go back up? We're still in a race to the bottom...

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Knowing Trump's irrationality, he just wants to erase all the market gains from when Biden was in office. That means he'll keep at it until the DOW looses another 10,000 points or so.

[-] andyquest@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Well I just bought some inverse SP500 x3 ETF so I'll hold onto that until we reach the new great depression

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

I lost a lot of money today, but I’m still up from 6 months ago.

This is going to last a long time and the recession is when they’ll buy.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It's good for them when they can buy other people's stock at fire sale prices, it's less good for them when their own stock is reduced to fire sale prices.

[-] Avg@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

It's only a concern if you need to sell during the downturn.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 months ago

And it isn't good for them if stock growth doesn't happen because American companies lose market share.

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[-] te_abstract_art@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago
[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 18 points 2 months ago

I mean, it’s only fuck if you’re in the stock market.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 52 points 2 months ago

I mean, anyone with a 401K is in the stock market.

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 14 points 2 months ago

Which is why 401k is a scam.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's still basically most people's only hope for retirement. And represents a large portion of the compensation they are literally working for day after day.

[-] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago

Especially with the history of constant cuts, and current gutting of, social security.

[-] golli@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

What's the better alternative? I'd certainly take a 401k over the current system in Germany where the current working population pays for the pensions of those currently retired. Which is obviously unsustainable if you take a single look at the demographic changes ahead.

Stocks will eventually go up again and at least for my global all world ETF the current drop means we are only back to where we were in September 24. Trump is certainly destroying a lot of wealth with his actions, but I think this would be true regardless of how you invest.

And anyone in hot waters right now because of the current drops should have probably been invested more diversified and maybe reduced risk a bit more.

[-] tomkatt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I have to admit, I don’t know that it’s the best option, but all my funds are currently in a HYSA.

Not as high return as the market under normal circumstances, but it’s liquid, and it’s been relatively safe at between 3.5% and 4.25% the last several years, and the times we live in are anything but normal.

[-] jerakor@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago

Your funds might be in a HYSA but the bank holding them probably has them in stocks and bonds.

So if the stocks fall enough you won't have your money anyways.

Now you could say you want to hold onto cash instead, but the only fix for the banks not having money is to print money which makes cash worth less.

Okay but what if you held gold or other minerals. Well the value of those comes from the perception that they could be used to trade when other things fail, but even if milk is $500 a gallon no grocery store is going to take gold as it isn't able to be insured and tracked. So the value of gold also will drop as it can't actually be used for goods and services.

So basically you can't isolate yourself and protect yourself from societies stupidity. Its all a gamble and maybe your option works out or maybe it doesn't but there isn't a clear way to avoid the problem.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

It's good to have 3 months to a year of expenses saved in an HYSA to start with as a rainy day fund you can use in an emergency (i.e. lose your job/house, etc.). I think there are some studies that a huge portion of the population doesn't have savings to cover even a surprise $1000 expense.

That's more important than putting money in the stock market to start with but after you have that you can put your savings into an IRA or something preferably in a diversified fund. (Vanguard has a few tgat are specifically targeted for retirement at particular years).

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[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

My life experience has given me no reason to believe it was ever going to pay out anyway. Let the motherfucker burn.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Have you actually looked at it? The sort of index fund that people put their retirement money in (if they invest in stocks rather than bonds) has doubled its value in the last 7 years. Quadrupled in the last 13.

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Let the motherfucker burn

Allow me to introduce you to the concept of a global depression, a situation far worse than anything we've seen in the last 100 years or so

[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

Just think of all that millennial investments!

[-] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago

I pulled out when he won.

The canary dies, you take action.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Where my SPXS gang at? 😎

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 2 points 2 months ago

Crying in their mom’s basement about how unfair gambling is.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 months ago
[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 months ago

This is apparently a fake tweet. An archive of the actual tweet corresponding to that datetime is here.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Looking at that archived Tweet, I forgot what it was like for Twitter responses to not be unhinged

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Down 3,163.27 since inauguration.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Dow drops 1200... so far.

[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 months ago

Old stock trader wisdom: don't catch a falling knife.

You don't know how low things can go. We're merely 100 days into the Trump presidency.

[-] Joeffect@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It's not even 100 days... 73 days since Jan 20th

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[-] oxysis@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago
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[-] Skua@kbin.earth 6 points 2 months ago

*Trading partner tariff rate is calculated by the White House to include "currency manipulation and trade barriers."

This needs to be way fucking bigger than a tiny light grey caption under the image, AP. "Trading partner tariff rate is pulled directly out of the administration's collective rear end"

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

US fire sale!! 🔥 every stock must go! 🔥 15-25% off priced to sell! 🔥 hurry, these deals won't last!* 🔥

*profits not guaranteed. in the event of mass economic collapse, cross your fingers for a bail out. This is not financial advice.

[-] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

3% It dropped 3%.

[-] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago
[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I wish there was some way to have seen this coming! Lol

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

This is what Trump wants. He wants the market to drop and/or a recession. Why? To force the Fed to drop rates back to essentially zero. Once that happens, expect a blistering turnaround in the market. Everyone and their great aunt will be borrowing money at ultra low interest to buy stocks. The stock market will explode, maybe crypto, too. Inflation will skyrocket. It will be nuts.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago
[-] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

I didn't have much in but I'm divesting from all stocks and cashing out. Everyone should sell it all and let the market crash.

[-] The_v@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I sold out everything back in Feb. I even processed a 401K to a roll-over IRA just so I could hold the money in cash. The money-market account is paying around 4% right now.

This orange moron is going to cause a massive worldwide recession and a depression in the U.S.

I'll reinvest in a few years.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

The Orange Turd is an economic genius.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

It is almost like the Orange Turd is an economic moron.

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