Nintendo delays Switch 2 preorders over tariff concerns (www.theverge.com)

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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 8 months ago

In the US. Key part there is "in the US". You guys deal with this nonsense. I intend to be playing my MSRP Vietnamese/Chinese console at launch, thankyouverymuch.

Hell, I'll take whatever stock you don't, maybe we can get a tenner or two shaved off the price. I'm sure the "let's sneak in the exchange rate and pretend it's VAT" thing is starting to look less appealing right about now.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 8 months ago

The Chinese release of the Switch has like 18 games in total

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 8 months ago

You misunderstood, I said it's Vietnamese/Chinese because that's where a lot of the components are manufactured and why the tariffs are a problem for US distribution in particular but not for other regions.

[-] AdityaGavit@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

guess i will stick with this one🥲

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Formatting looks wonky, but the message comes through. Awesome effort. 😀

[-] rocky1138@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

*in the USA

Edit: apparently they've later come out and said Canada will be included. I dunno. I've stopped following.

[-] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 2 points 8 months ago

I would never had imagined that in my lifetime I’d see gringos reverse-smuggling game consoles from Mexico. I guess you could smuggle them from Canada too, but Mexico has always smuggled merch from USA. We even have a term for it: “fayuca”.

The lucky ones that live near the border can cross, shop switches 2 at non-orange prices, open them and smuggle the back as personal devices.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Oh, you think Canadians aren’t going to get in on tariff evasion? They 100% will.

The tremendous irony is America was founded to evade massive tariffs, sorta… and now we’re doing it to our self.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

All of North America actually.

[-] MandragoreaeAnimada@chachara.club 2 points 8 months ago

You can tell Americans think their country is the Internet, and the Internet is oriented for Americans.

[-] merdaverse@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Next revolution will be like:

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, bullshit. They're just using tariffs to further increase the price.

100 bucks cheaper in Japan than any other region? 90 dollar games that never go on sale?

Get bent, Nintendo, I'll stick to the steam deck and wait for emulation.

[-] Bristingr@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Someone doesn't understand the full story. The Yen is weak. Super weak when compared to the US dollar. Hence the price difference for their country.

Additionally, those special consoles will be soft region locked. Only JP accounts can be added to them and will display Japanese only if the game supports that language.

Games never go on sale, what are you on about? We see Nintendo games go on sale frequently. Sorry they're not the $5 dumpster trash that EA/Ubisoft shits out every year with their latest madden or CoD/Just Dance games riddled with bugs.

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

They should absolutely be selling their NES games for $5 or less instead of the original prices innthe 90s lol

Quit sucking corporate cock

Snap out of it fanboy

[-] Natanael@infosec.pub 0 points 8 months ago

The Nordic prices are ridiculous though. It's the equivalent of adding ~200 euro to the regular European price. I bet lots of people here are going to import from other EU countries

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Nordic prices are high mostly because of Bergsala, the monopoly importer. Why let the scalpers profit when they could be the ones doing the scalping instead, eh?

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

~~$442~~ Wait, new us price (since its built in china, for a Japanese company) is $1000

[-] dan@upvote.au 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This is a rare case where a piece of consumer electronics is going to be quite a bit cheaper in Australia compared to the USA! Usually stuff costs more in Australia.

The Switch is currently US$450 and will probably go up with tariffs. Meanwhile, it's listed as AU$700 in Australia, which is AU$630 before tax (all advertised prices include tax), which is US$385.

I imagine this is going to happen for a lot of devices. I'm an Aussie living in the USA and I never thought I'd see the day when buying stuff in Australia would be cheaper. Australia has better consumer protection too, around things like repairs/refunds due to major issues even outside the warranty period.

[-] DNSpapi@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Regardless of price, Nintendo is a shit legacy company that is riding on the coattails of the 90's.

They never have games on steep discounts like their competitors, ensure emulations and artistic expressions are shut down immediately, and barely change shit to their flagship games such as Pokemon. They're creatively stale and are blessed to have a rabid fan base who can't see through it.

I got a switch since my kid brought grades home, but that's the last piece of electronic device I'll ever buy from Nintendo. This is someone who has played back in its heyday the N64.

People who 'boycott' and go back to buying what they boycotted because said company pushed out a halfass apology tweet deserve to lose their money.

Edit: lol at the Nintendo fan boys downvoting

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[-] Gointhefridge@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I see a lot of people ragging on the switch and comparing it to the Steam Deck. I own both but

I’m gonna say this: they’re not even direct competitors. They don’t offer the same experiences at all.

The beauty of the Switch is the ease of use, modularity of control, and communal nature of it. Even if switch online sucks, playing with other switches or 8 people in the same room with certain games is unbelievably easy. The plug and play usability and every single game you can buy from the internal store just works.

Not to mention the dock is flawless and literally easy to use. For all its problems, the switch is a surprisingly well executed idea. There’s a reason they sold hundreds of millions of them.

Steam is catching up, but there’s still a ways to go between proton compatible games, connecting controllers, plugging into a dock without having to bend down and plug a cable etc. The Switch is simply put: easy.

That said, Nintendo is stupid for pricing the Switch 2 out of the “no brainer” casual gamer territory.

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

you can fix the online problems with a USB-to-ethernet adapter on the dock

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

As owner and early adopter of both - disagree.

Switch is gathering dust for me and everytime I pull it out i feel like getting my steamdeck instead.

The only exception I can think off is low profile traveling but that's a very small niche if people.

[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, people are bitching about first party titles never going down in price, meanwhile I'm here enjoying my 300Eur indie machine.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Also most of Nintendo’s target audience has no idea that the Steam Deck exists. Like if a kid asks their parents for a Switch 2 the parents aren’t going to suggest the Steam Deck since they don’t know what it is. Nintendo does a shit ton of traditional advertising, the Nintendo brand has an enormous mind share among the general audience. The mind share for Steam is almost non existent outside of PC gamers.

And many kids I know who play PC games don’t even have Steam installed. Since they only play Roblox and Fortnite on their PC. Nintendo is not competing with the Steam Deck. Their real competition is Apple and Android because of Fortnite, Roblox and TikTok.

[-] slaveOne@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

I see a lot of people saying they shouldn't be compared, but it still does make sense to do so as most can't afford both.

[-] suite403@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

And outside of coop couch, the switch pales in comparison on just about everything else.

Game prices: higher

Feel in hands? Awkward

Removable controllers: pop off or loosen during solo gameplay causing everything to pause in order to fix it, which can, but isn't always, be a quick easy fix.

Plus, games like Animal Crossing that allow coop couch still demand individual switch consoles if you want the full experience for multiple people.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

outside of coop couch

Couch coop is pretty much the only reason we have a Switch. If it was just for me, I wouldn't bother.

As it stands, I have both: Steam Deck for me, Switch for family couch coop.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago

For the US only, lol

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[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Dammm, the best part is everyone speculated that the price it's at now was to predict and get ahead of tarrif pricing by already setting it higher. The fact that it's not is scary.

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[-] FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

I delayed my preorder when I saw the bullshit price gouging for game prices.

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Have you seen that nowhere is selling switch games for $90?

Look into it.

[-] FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Where did I say $90?

Look into it

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I'm sorry, i guess i took it as implied. I think that's a fair assumption because what else could you mean by price gouging when all people have been talking about is the $90 games?

If that's not what you meant, then what did you mean?

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

$80, $90, and even $100 games lmao. Even $70 is too much.

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I guess it is. But why pretend this is something new? Games have always been expensive. Ps1 games were between 40 and 60 dollars when they came out. That's almost 110 dollars accounting for inflation on about 50 dollars then.

The ps1 itself would cost almost 800 dollars today, accounting for inflation.

Game prices haven't really followed along with inflation. The 60 dollar game has been a thing since i was a child in the 90s.

I agree that perhaps 80 dollars is a lot for a game, and maybe they should be priced lower than 1 quarter the cost of the console, but thats a different argument.

What i am saying, again, is this is nothing new, and i think this outrage is symptomatic of "short-term memory loss".

I wish games were cheaper. But ragging on nintendo for charging less than they used to for n64 games (when accounting for inflation) and selling a console that plays ps5 games for less than a ps5. Is a bit strange. I also think the portability of the switch is something neither of the big 2 have. The playstation portal is half the cost of a ps5 and has to be on the same wifi as the ps5.

I just dont see why people think this is so egregious.

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Because it is egregious. Wow solved that for you. Write an essay somewhere else about how you love Nintendo so much.

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

In fact. I dont care if you realise it or not. I dont need your validation. Im in my 30s. I'm nearly 40. i have been gaming since the sega master system. That's fairly early doors for gaming. Its super early for console gaming. I know what i am talking about, i have been alive for long enough and paid for enough games to know what i am talking about.

The fact that you are just going to downvote me and offer absolutely nothing to counter my argument is enough for me to know you are EITHER too young to k ow about any of this, or being purposfully ignorant to jump on the rage wagon.

The fact you automatically think i am schilling for nintendo because my argument passively defends them (its actually an argument defending all game pricing) is just evidence of your immaturity.

Grow up, eh?

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Well since you brought it up Ive been gaming longer than you. Raising prices to $80, $90, and $100 is price gouging, thats all it is.

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Right. So its the willfully ignorant path then?

Come on, mate. How can you be so blind?

And as i said in the other comment. Please show me the 90 or 100 dollar switch 2 games.

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Switch 2 isnt out yet, how can I show you? Nintendo said in direct new Switch 2 games could be $80 for digital and $90 for physical.

On top of that you have their membership you have to pay for online. And then you have to pay for any DLC. It's a joke.

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

So, assuming you can't find pricing right now would mean that you are speculating entirely and basing your whole argument on that.

But if you actually google it

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mario-Kart-World-U-S-Version/15940407280

You will find that this physical game is 80 dollars on preorder at walmart.

A further search will show a number of games available for preorder

https://www.ign.com/articles/nintendo-switch-2-game-preorder-listings-are-live

And if you scroll through (its just a short way down the article, the most expensive game is 80 dollars and the cheapest is 40 dollars.

Does that change anything about you opinion? Now that i have backed up my argument?

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Too expensive my g. As stated above, $80 is too much.

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