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6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux? (lemmy.world)

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[-] BingBong@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 weeks ago

Bought my wife a framework laptop, slapped fedora on it and have been helping her make the switch. So far so good other than Obsidian not working the same as OneNote.

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[-] Firipu@startrek.website 0 points 4 weeks ago

I run Linux on a small mini pc for some casual browsing.

I run windows on my main pc.

As long as some kernel anticheat (fortnite, cod, etc...) doesn't run on Linux, I won't be swapping.

30+y of windows use also makes me infinitely more comfortable with windows. All the complaints I always read about are totally moot for me (I understand the issue of privacy in windows. It's the price I pay to have an OS that "just works" for me) .

While I enjoy tinkering, Linux is a royal PITA to use if you're not used to it. I spend hours trying to figure out how to fix something that takes me 5m max in windows. I understand it's a more a me than a Linux problem. But I'm certain many people struggle with the same things.

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[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

I still use steam on Windows 7. I don't see the problem.

[-] Shannaresh@lemm.ee 0 points 4 weeks ago

Just please make sure it's not internet connected if you value such things as your privacy, and bank accounts not being breached extremely easily. End of security support is no joke.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I don't really use the browser on that machine. It still has basic virus protection, and such.

End of security support is no joke.

Well really... that all depends on if you're laughing.

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[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

It's going to be purchase a new hard drive and then jump to Linux Mint this August.

It's not an experience I am looking forward to (5080S, I do a lot of modding, and enjoy fangames/indie games which do not always play nice with linux) but needs must - the Linux community in general is very friendly, so we'll get through it, even if the first 6 months are rough. I'll keep the dual boot and push the windows partition to 11 if needed by work, that way I can put off rewriting my elderly access database for another few years.

Honestly, Microsoft are committing suicide when it comes to home users. It won't be sudden, but the wheels are turning, all the IT savvy folks are switching people over (already did my aunt's potato, mum's demi-tato is next week). Eventually, a tipping point will be reached and offices will start switching - I hope that day comes before I die of old age!

[-] kjetil@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Tip: Add your non-steam games to steam to launch launch them with Proton. thats probably the easiest way.

Otherwise there's Bottles and Lutris (and maybe HeroicLauncher)

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Thanks for the tips!

Lutris I've used with some success, and I'm somewhat ok with wine when it works out if the box (or troubleshooting using the wine wiki).

Do you recommend any other sites/guides for troubleshooting?

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[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 0 points 4 weeks ago

My gaming PC is on Win 11 because it's recent and I'm lazy and it's convenient. My laptop runs Win 10 so it'll be Linux I guess. Not really looking forward to finding a distro and reinstalling and whatnot but what can you do. It's been a good few years since I last had a Linux box so I'm pretty rusty and not up to date on the recent best distros.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago

What distro did you use before?

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 0 points 4 weeks ago

I used to use UbuntuStudio back when I was playing around with music recording and production ages ago because it ran the real-time kernel which was important for JACK I think. Last time though was just Mint.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago

Well, Mint is still one of the top recommendations for new users. It gets support for the newest hardware at a bit of a delay, so if you wanted to follow suit with your new gaming PC, it might not be as great of a choice for that for now, but for your laptop, that's what I'd recommend, if you're not looking to experiment.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 0 points 4 weeks ago

I'm probably not going to be doing much gaming on my laptop, if any. I could be persuaded to experiment if you have any other suggestions.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 weeks ago

Well, that was kind of a general statement. Mint is boring. That's what it's good at. That's why it's loved and why it's recommended for new users. Specifically, it's similar to Windows in many ways. It's somewhat more customizable, but that's about it.

With you having used Linux twice before, you could consider something less Windows-like, less boring. I'll be talking about the desktop environment (DE) rather than distro, because it has much more influence on this. You can use these DEs on various distros.

My personal favorite DE is KDE Plasma. The default-layout is also Windows-like, but it's got all of the bells and whistles and options you could imagine. It's kind of power-user heaven and almost like a toolbox to build whatever workflow you want.
The other big, popular DE is GNOME. It's more macOS- and Android-like and focuses on a specific workflow. People who can get used to that workflow, then often really like it. The workflow itself is sometimes frustratingly uncustomizable, but it's also fairly customizable when it comes to the details, typically by virtue of also having lots of features, which can then be customized.
Well, and I guess, I'll throw in Xfce, too, since that's likely what you used, back when you used Ubuntu Studio. (Ubuntu Studio uses KDE since the October 2020 release, but used Xfce before then.)
Xfce isn't necessarily what modern beauty standards would get flustered by, but many folks like it for its simplicity and because it is perhaps even more boring than Mint (without being Windows-like). There's a good chance that it still works a lot like back when you used it.

Perhaps also worth mentioning that Mint's DE is called "Cinnamon", although it's developed by the Mint devs, so if you like that a lot, it's typically worth sticking to Mint.

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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 weeks ago

Man, I really tried today to get Linux on my Framework laptop.

I can't believe how goddamn frustrating the experience has been, and I've dabbled in Linux for decades.

I try Mint. Install as a dual boot... Installation done. Reboot. Straight into Windows. Check partitions and nothing has changed.

Try again. All seems fine. Boot. Some error screen that won't let me get into Mint.

Do this like four more times with no luck.

Tried Ubuntu. No easy way to install as a dual boot unless I want to mess around with custom paritions. Also, GNOME sucks ass, but Ubuntu seems way more polished than Mint.

I did get mint on a mini PC I have running through my TV. But audio wasn't working, so that took a while to sort out. And the onscreen keyboard does nothing on the lock screen. So unpolished, and I have no idea why it's recommended "for beginners" when it feels unfinished.

With windows, there's no messing around. Everything just works. And I fucking hate that I feel forced to choose a miserable, hacky, terminal-based experience with countless hours of installing shit through commands... Or a smooth, reliable, easy one with bloatware and spying on the backend. Goddammit!

[-] Schortl@feddit.org 0 points 4 weeks ago

Had the completly oposite experience: mint installed in 2 hours with everything working. No bloatware, no bullshit. Biggest obstacle was, that changing the device bootorder is nog enough- uefi seetings needed some love to. I can imagine that this is not necessery if you do not use dual boot ( like win....talking about experience...)

For me everything works perfect- mint is my primary os now

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Gonna be a useless recommend, but try Fedora or Bazzite (Fedora Silverblue gaming with tweaks to make it easier).

I've had some friends with similar complaints about Mint having one off issues with hardware, which is usually because its downstream Ubuntu which means kernel support can be all over the place.

Fedora is probably best bang for buck in latest stable release without entering the realm of unstable rolling like Arch. Really the only thing I've found that it lacks is more varied support for ARM boards out of box and a cross compile package for ARM from x86.

By default it does have a slightly annoying repo setup because software that isn't FOSS ends up on RPMFusion which you have to enable as a user, which is why I suggest Bazzite, which also uses the immutable Linux design which makes it much easier to prevent from breaking or fixing by rolling back a change.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 weeks ago

Fedora is fully supported on my Framework laptop (as is Ubuntu and Mint), and I did have it working off an external SSD to try.

But.... Sigh....

It's American, so I won't use it. American is one big reason why I want to quit Windows. Maybe I'll just keep trying. 😮‍💨

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[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

It's tricky because I have things that just don't translate well to linux, or become considerably more expensive or time consuming to manage / deal with. Linux has a lot to offer and a lot of great. But I'm just going to keep running an out of date OS until I can switch.

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