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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by ptz@dubvee.org to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

Note: Tagged "general" because the fediverse is disproportionately in favor of Linux/FOSS.

In the past, I wouldn't hold this opinion, but as Windows has become increasingly dumbed down and clouded up, it's become something of a sore spot to deal with Windows folks.

If something goes wrong and you ask a Windows admin for logs? Good luck. In all fairness, Windows logging is pretty terrible if the software uses the Event logger. Still, pulling logs or checking for obvious issues along those lines is a foreign concept to 90+% of them. Their first action is to reboot. If that doesn't fix it, go crying to the vendor.

I liken them to "button pushers" who don't know or care how the button works, why the button works, etc. Is it possible, or even likely, that Windows creates more clueless badmins by sheer size of their market share? Absolutely. But the real problem is that few of them seem intent to actually learn what's going on under the hood, how, or why. By and large, they care only that when they click "this" button, "that" happens.

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[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The thing about Windows it's a nightmare to administer. Everything is thrown everywhere. There's like 4 generations of admin controls. Need to make a change? Depending on what it is, you need to go to the GPOs,DISM,Registry, [JD]Power Shell, run some dumb program from system32 or maybe you need to download toolkit. It's a mess. The smart admins realize this is bullshit and convince management to buy a 3rd party tool that promises control.

Whatever pays the bills.

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

I had an agent spike CPU on some *nix boxes the other day. Straight to VMWare they went with the ticket. Why? Because the hosts were spiking too. Zero local investigation. Makes me mental because no matter what kind of enterprise agreements you’ve got for support, they assume you’re a complete moron as a result of activity like that.

Your opinion is pretty commonplace among Linux users, and as much as I appreciate the work you do, you should know there’s a lot of people in the windows world who are very competent - and don’t look down on other people simply because their tool of choice is different.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not so much the tool of choice I'm judging, just the....intellectually non-curious types that tend to use it.

That anecdote reminds me of a recent one. We had a data exchange setup with an outside party. They put in a ticket saying our sending node wasn't working. Of course, we investigate, and it's definitely sending. Logs showed the outbound request and the successful response from their node.

We tell them our side is working fine. They said "no, it's not." So I pull the logs again showing that, yes, it IS working.

Didn't hear from them for a couple of days. Finally the came back and said "All good. The C: drive was just full"

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ah, fair enough. That’s true. I’m looking at a client now with 1/3 of the company given domain admin soooooo… your point is made.

Wait do I upvote or downvote if I agree. Lmao

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

You’re right, most of them don’t care to learn how everything works at a deep level. But if you are one of the few that do, you can make bank.

Source: Retired at 49.

[-] 30p87@feddit.org -1 points 1 month ago

"Windows admin" is an oxymoron. it's not possible to administer windows. It's spyware. It administers you.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 1 points 1 month ago

You administer Windows like you would administer poison.

[-] fakeplastic@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 month ago

Even for the internet, this is stupid.

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