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Jack Dorsey, co-founder of Twitter (now X) and Square (now Block), sparked a weekend’s worth of debate around intellectual property, patents, and copyright, with a characteristically terse post declaring, “delete all IP law.”

X’s current owner Elon Musk quickly replied, “I agree.”

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

That's probably better than what we have now, but still very short of ideal. Here's my proposition:

  • keep trademark law as-is
  • cut patents to 5-7 years, with a one-time extension if the holder can demonstrate need
  • cut copyright to 14 years (original 1790 Copyright Act duration), with a one-time explicit extension, approved based on need
  • have existing patents and copyright expire at their original term, the above (for works patented/copyrighted within the term), or half the above (for works copyrighted outside the term), whichever is shorter

That would solve most of the problems while keeping the vast majority of the benefits.

I would still keep patents at about 20 years. There's some nuance that needs to change to prevent, say, Nintendo from retroactively patenting Pokemon after Palworld comes out, but yeah patent law needs a colonic.

I'd be okay with 20 or even 30 year copyright terms on complete works, but I would be more open on derivative works and fair use.

I want stricter trademark law. Trademark should be about knowing where your products come from. A manufacturer gets right of way over a mark so that they can defend their own reputation, and I'll help them defend that mark because I want to know where the goods I buy come from.

It should not be legal to buy a commodity item and slap your brand on it. I see this a lot in the tool market. There seems to be two 6" jointers in production in the world today, the one JET makes, and the one everyone else sells. Wen, Craftsman and Porter Cable among many others sell the same 6" jointer. Speaking of Craftsman, that brand is now owned by Stanley Black & Decker, who also owns Porter Cable, DeWalt, and several others. Most of what they use this for is to sell mutually incompatible yet functionally similar power tools so you have to buy more batteries. They might design or build some of their tools in-house, but many of them they buy from some other company and just put their stickers on. Is it, or is it not, a "Craftsman"?

Then you've got Amazon, Temu, AliExpress and other Chinese dropshipping platforms. They make a whole bunch of shit and then register nineteen or twenty bullshit trademarks to sell the same thing under. I would make that illegal; if you have a brand that is suitable for selling a given item, you're not allowed another for that purpose. Trademarks are supposed to reduce consumer confusion, you're using them to increase consumer confusion. If I am elected dictator, that kind of behavior will earn you a public trepanning.

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[-] void_turtle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

The only sensible thing either of these two have ever said. All knowledge belongs to all humankind.

[-] C126@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago

IP is simply a state backed monopoly privilege. This obviously leads to a slowing of innovation and price rises due to lack of (by force) competition. IP is unethical and doesn’t even accomplish what it sets out to do. You don’t need government promises of monopoly rights to create innovation in the marketplace, competition drives innovation.

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[-] Unmapped@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Unexpected good elon take. Patents and copyright laws have probably held us back at least 50 years worth in advancements. So much R&D is just solving problems that have already been solved.

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