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[-] sentinel@lemmitor.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, its also downvotes on Lemmy

[-] Lifekraft@jlai.lu 6 points 1 day ago

For sure its probably propaganda but the irony is that most people downvoting you are probably just influenced by the opposite propaganda.

That's primarily why most people on lemmy that critically support the CCP post; to get people to realize their reflexive EvIlCHiNaMeNcOmMiEs bad is influenced by the propaganda they've been consuming for decades.

Its a democratic state made up of more people than the entirety of North America and Europe combined. There is no magic brainwashing power that exists in any version of our reality that affects 1.4 billion humans perfectly. So either they're not people or maybe most of them genuinely enjoy their country and the good it's managed to do for them.

Oh and since this is ml and facts can be said; the uighur population isn't under going genocide. We know what a 21st century genocide looks like in a fascist state. The few thousand (out of tens of millions) arrested and allowed reeducation for legitimately going to Afghanistan and becoming terrorists does not a genocide make.

[-] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Poverty is such a weird concept when applied like this.

Much of chinas population were deemed as living in poverty, despite just... Living oldschool farming village lives like they always did. Might not have had much money, but they just lived like farmers and villagers.

Then a bunch of people invented a bunch of stuff, looked at these people who didn't have those things, and said "man, are you poor! We better create some jobs for you..." and are now patting themselves on the back for taking these people out of their villages, and giving them the possibility to live for ABOVE 1.90$ a day.

Oh wow.

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

What you described is ABSOLUTE poverty(not the possibility of making that money, but actually doing so is the definition. Just the possibility would be considered a failure by chinese standards), the form of poverty(also called relative poverty) which China has fully eradicated not too long ago. China defines relative poverty much more broadly.

[-] thejml@lemm.ee 24 points 2 days ago

Cool thing is that Poverty isn’t just money:

Fundamentally, poverty is a denial of choices and opportunities, a violation of human dignity. It means lack of basic capacity to participate effectively in society. It means not having enough to feed and clothe a family, not having a school or clinic to go to, not having the land on which to grow one's food or a job to earn one's living, not having access to credit. It means insecurity, powerlessness and exclusion of individuals, households and communities. It means susceptibility to violence, and it often implies living in marginal or fragile environments, without access to clean water or sanitation.

There are plenty of other definitions, but they all revolve around these things: food, clothing, shelter, clean water and air, etc. All basic human needs.

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

In short: To be considered not poor in China you have to have full access to healthcare, edcuation a relatively decent income, solid housing and so on.

They did not "pat thremselves on the back" for givcing them the "possibility" of making above 1,90 bucks a day.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[-] Briaaahn@lemm.ee -2 points 1 day ago

Should be "everytime i send uyghurs to reeducation camps i do 1 pushup"

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

Then They'd have done no pushups in the last 6 years and thus had atrophied muscles.

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