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[-] Alterforlett@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

So they asked beforehand if there was space for them, and they were told it was not. They were told by the police to exit the highway, and they did not.

Unless there's more to the story than what the article says, this is some seriously entitled behaviour

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 months ago

They're literally 'entitled' to use Swiss roads. You don't need to ask police permission to drive somewhere. If they thought the caravan was going to park somewhere illegally, they could intervene then once an actual crime has been committed.

But none of this is about actual crime. It's just NIMBY racism.

[-] Humanius@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

The article does say that it was the local council that wanted to prevent them from moving there.

I'm not saying there definitely is a discriminatory motive.. I do not know how the people of Switzerland look at the Romani people.
But given the way Roma are treated in much of Europe, and Switzerland's reputation for being somewhat conservative, I am not discounting the possibility that they are being discriminated against here.

The equivalent in the US would be if a couple of families of black people wanted to move to a predominantly white town in the south, and the county would step in claiming there are no more homes available.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

By "traveling community" and "travelers", does the article author actually mean Romani ("gypsies")?

I ask since the article may have lost something in translation. It also puts the police's actions in a different light if true.

[-] Humanius@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Travelers" does generally refer to the Romani and Sinti people who live a nomadic lifestyle.

The French version of the article uses the phrase "les gens du voyage", which according to the French Wikipedia page is often used to refer to the "Roma of France (including the Sinti and the Gitanos)".

So I think it's fairly safe to assume that that is what they mean with "travelers" in this article.

[-] justgohomealready@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago

But they travel on what seem to be modern and perfectly white and clean caravans? These must not be the same kind of travellers we have where I live.

[-] Renohren@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Most gypsies do in continental western Europe, nice cars too. I can also tell you where they were heading is a very luxurious area where mansion owners are maybe a bit more equal than a farmer who wants to rent out his field.

[-] figjam@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago

If they are citizens of the eu don't they have freedom of movement between countries?

[-] ik5pvx@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Switzerland is not a member of EU

[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

The borders are still open though, no?

[-] Humanius@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Correct. There is freedom of movement between the EU and Switzerland.
Switzerland is also part of Schengen, so there is not even a need to show a passport at the border.

[-] ik5pvx@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They are part of Schengen, so no border control. But the rest of intra-EU arrangements don't necessarily apply.

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