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[-] ComfortablyDumb@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago

Now please expose the powertripping reddit admins as well.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 22 points 1 week ago

Good. Privacy is a fundamental right, but since that platform is regularly used to doxx people who are simply trying to exist, in addition to platforming and incubating some of the most harmful ideologies, they've relinquished any claims to those rights to privacy, as far as I'm concerned.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 63 points 1 week ago

The way you're describing it, it sounds more like you believe privacy is a privilege, not a right.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You mean, people who operate a platform where people's privacy constantly gets violated should have a right to their own privacy?

I dunno. I understand your point, but @Telorand@reddthat.com is also kind of right.

[-] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago

lots of rights get modified, curtailed, or eliminated by the larger society based on misuse or misbehavior or other transgressions.

(or positions of power, etc...)

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

I'd say it's more like a right that's been taken away and they're okay with that.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 9 points 1 week ago

All rights are privileges, if we're going to be pedantic. This is evidenced by the fact that they can be taken away. Society tends to operate on an unspoken, collective agreement that certain rights should never be violated, but if they were actually intrinsic, we wouldn't have to fight tooth and nail for them.

I'm a moral relativist, so if someone is happy to abuse their right to privacy to harm others or otherwise take their rights away, especially the right to privacy, I don't feel any compunction to draw a hard line and say that the harmful person deserves to keep those rights in spite of their actions.

[-] O4PetesSake@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Those collective agreements include stipulations for what happens to someone who violates other’s rights. They lose some rights themselves.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

All rights are privileges, if we’re going to be pedantic. This is evidenced by the fact that they can be taken away.

I know you don't intend for me to hear this, but I heard George Carlin as you typed that. He has a whole bit on rights vs privileges.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

Oh? I'm not that familiar with his comedy, but I probably should get to know it. What little I know I like!

[-] sepi@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago
[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

I prefer the platinum rule of humanism, but essentially, yes.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

"Live and let live" obviously doesn't work. 4chan has done so much damage to the world that I wouldn't mind seeing their big players in gallows in the town square.

[-] essteeyou@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If you're breaking the law then you forfeit your rights in favor of some much more restrictive ones.

[-] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago

did the moderators violate the law though?

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

nosferatu hissing sounds

[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
[-] illegible@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago

Are we going to find out the history of q-anon?

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Turns out it was Bernie Sanders all along. Finally, the deep state megajew lizard retreats to his orbiting space station with the breakaway civilization and starts charging up the 5G covid laser while petting his chemically gay frog. Blissful oblivion is only moments away for the hairless ape race, unless the tall plieadian archangel Mick intervenes.

[-] illegible@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago
[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

This is standard, vanilla lore in conspiracy circcles

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

A person in my discord (with no source, so keep that in mind) sent the attached. He was theorizing that Q-anon was a Mossad operation based on this chart saying Israel has the highest quantity of posts after 2014. He's fairly left leaning, and not one of the crazies on 4 chan yelling "the joos!" Having said that I have no idea if this chart is even legit.

[-] starsailover@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

I have also seen this image but the question is what did they try to accomplish? If anything cesspools like 4chan have radicalized guys to the far right and increase antisemitism.

[-] el_muerte@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

There's this weird phenomenon where Zionism and antisemitism have a ton of overlap on the far right. White Christian nationalism has end times beliefs that rely on Israel existing as a nation in full control of the entire original "Holy Land," but such beliefs don't necessarily require the Jewish people to be thriving or treated as equals.

I guess it's possible that Israeli intelligence and leadership behind such an operation, if there is any legitimacy to the idea this was a Mossad operation, could've decided that the odd hate crime carried out against Jews by ~~mentally ill lone wolves~~ stochastic terrorists would not only be a comparatively small price to pay in the furtherance of their goals, but even serve to galvanise the broader populace in support of Israel. And that outcome is actually what we're seeing in reality - we see that a large number of moderates and even some progressives have hopped on board the "any criticism of Israel is antisemitism" train.

I'm not saying I believe this theory, but it definitely seems plausible.

[-] And009@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 week ago

Why's it only white dominated countries?

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

It’s an English language forum.

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