[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

soviets often try to steal all the achievements of the country

Thing is that the workers in those countries were Soviet as well. Credit goes to the labor regardless of nationality. The softening of national divisions was a great achievement of both the USSR and Yugoslavian socialist governments. It has been disastrous that those institutions weren't able to prevail until the current day (they should have evolved instead of been abolished, but I don't know enough to comment much further).

I don't agree with the depiction of the USSR as an outside force that developed these countries "for them". It was an opportunity to come together under one republic and develop.

I think the meme is attempting to disparage the "ungratefulness" of present day liberals in these FSU countries, but I think it lacks nuance to say the least.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

I think the meme is low quality and needlessly provocative (no offense OP I guess), but the answer is likely complex. Once the republics are under the purview of the USSR, the resources and engineerong may well have come from elsewhere in the country, even if the construction crews were primarily local people.

I don't know enough about Soviet construction to provide an actual answer, though.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

I didn't want a mod tag next to all of my posts, and Lemmy doesn't let you disable it.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

It's not that you're an idiot, but it's wise to avoid using a chromium/blink based browser since they are building a dangerous monopoly. Firefox is the best known alternative, but there are a couple other options.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

The thing is that on leftist forums, the stakes for a veganism debate are pretty high cause it easily causes a 50-50ish flameout.

Mods would appreciate if people like OP didn't intentionally troll to stir that sort of thing up (if the discussion takes place organically and respectfully, then whatever).

Mods would also appreciate if people didn't feed obvious trolls who are just starting things up, like you pointed out, there are specific places to post about that sort of topic.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Please don't feed obvious trolls

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Before that can happen, we (as the non-ownership class) need to shift away from the capitalist mode of production, into a more advanced economy. On a global scale this is incredibly difficult, since the United States has a hegemonic influence over global economic affairs, and has been hostile to any states that attempt to subvert the capitalist mode. This is kinda sorta beginning to wane, but it'll be a couple decades still until we see some real progress IMO.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

They should clarify for themselves I guess, but by my reading they were commenting on the general topic of "unemployment metrics" rather than the specific situation in the article. If that's the case it'd be a different discussion entirely.

I'd hope that people understand that the PRC doesn't have a robust social safety net as it stands currently.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

I'd encourage you to expound on this in your original comment, rather than start off with something inflammatory. It doesn't promote an interesting discussion.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm not exactly with the other guy, but it's extremely important to realize that ALL sources are biased. The Washington post and the New York Times both function as propaganda. They often serve as the mouthpiece of the United States Department of State or Defense, and are happy to cultivate public support for military conflicts that are in the interest of the American ruling class.

This is well documented in the book Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky. You can also listen to the podcast Citations Needed to gain a better understanding about how this works in the modern day.

An example you may be readily familiar with is the Iraq War, in which US government officials repeatedly lied to the public and started a meaningless war, without any real journalistic pushback. This lead to an atrocity affecting millions.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Everyone else just lived in pretty poor, if stable, conditions.

That's the thing, they lived in a poor country. Not strictly because of their political system (as many flaws as it had), but because of global economics, and trade hostility from the USA that intentionally hampered growth. It's not like they were purposely kept poor for funsies or cause the government were big meanies (sure, they were meanies in other ways). The wealth inequality between modern political leaders and funding sources (where the real power comes from) and the average citizen (particularly in the USA) is far greater than it ever was in the USSR.

Things are better for some and worse for many since then in Russia, but in other places like Ukraine, Belarus, and Moldova everyone lost except for the rich guys who pillaged all the private infrastructure.

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Gonna be this way for the foreseeable future

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