"We lost? It's because we didn't do enough to appeal to conservative voters!"

"We won? In the spirit of unity, it's time to work across the aisle with our Republican colleagues."

Stein is mostly a gadfly, but gadflies get attention. The dems have no incentive to court leftist votes if they assume we're too small to make an impact or we'll fall in line no matter what they say. The possibility of the Green party becoming viable is one way to demonstrate that that isn't true. I prefer PSL as well, but it looks like the Greens are marginally better known and currently ahead in ballot access.

As for AOC and the DSA, the latter rescinded its endorsement of the former, so I don't think you can treat them as associated. As for why that endorsement was rescinded, it was because AOC got that power and then refused to use it to advance the DSA's objectives. She executed on a plan to gain power, sure, but she's not putting that power to good use, so I don't know what the lesson is there. It's easier to get power if you submit to the establishment?

Jill Stein living rent free in AOC's head has been extremely funny.

"We have to make compromises when there's a fascist on the ballot."
"Why was the fascist allowed to be on the ballot in the first place?"
"..."
"What will the allegedly non fascist party do to prevent fascists from getting on the ballot next time?"
"..."
"Weren't members of the allegedly non-fascist party responsible for helping the current fascist win the 2016 primaries?"
"..."
"Weren't historical fascist movements able to rise to power despite electoral defeats?"
"Well what are you doing about it? At least I'm voting!"

Not that you can see this reply, but this was literally crossposted to our news comm, soup for brains.

That was a funny response because shortly before the debate there was a Hexbear post about a report that compared China's rate of technological progress to the US's and found that the US was behind China in all technologies but two. Guess which ones? Someone on Kamala's team must have also seen it.

I tried to find the post but I'm not sure where it went.

Just a good ol' bad cop/psycho cop routine.

So what you do is you take a nuke. Drop it in a hole. Then drop another one in. Then another one. Hope you brought a lot of nukes. Eventually the gas law (Pv=nrt baby) dictates that you end up with an atmosphere dense enough to be breathable plus you're definitely low enough down that you're shielded from radiation. Bring some looooong cables to connect to solar panels up on the surface, crank up the heater, hang up a grow lamp for your potatoes, and live large in the miles-deep, yards-wide prison you dug for yourself.

The funny thing is She of the Real Time Fact Checkers lied her ass off the entire time. She lied about the Chinese Covid response, she repeated the Hamas sexual assault allegations that the NYT chose not to print, she either lied about her love of fracking (less likely) or her belief that climate change is an existential threat (more likely)*.

The thing is those lies are all within the Pale of Discourse so they go unchallenged. Trump is such a gift to the democrats because they get to go as far to the right as they want while still keeping their cherished veneer of intelligence and maturity.

*I suppose she could think both and either be a bona-fide threat to humanity or a complete idiot who doesn't know what's causing climate change

It's a really psychologically isolating day to be a leftist in what has been a very long series of psychologically isolating days. The extent to which people just... don't care, can't be bothered to consider the perspective of someone outside their borders is gross.

Analysts say allowing autocracy to once again flourish in North America and in the ethnostates of sub-Scandinavian Europe could lead to yet another all-out Caucasian tribal conflict that would draw in the rest of the international community – a third world war.

She also essentially ran the lab leak conspiracy theory on covid.