Thanks, yeah that is an interesting point. I suppose any sort of experimentation becomes a bit more ethically dicey when the scientist can't have informed consent from the subject.

The treatments were black-and-white painted stripes, black painted stripes, and no stripes (all-black body surface). Recorded fly-repelling behaviors were head throw, ear beat, leg stamp, skin twitch, and tail flick. Photo images of the right side of each cow were taken using a commercial digital camera after every observation and biting flies on the body and each leg were counted from the photo images. Here we show that the numbers of biting flies on Japanese Black cows painted with black-and-white stripes were significantly lower than those on non-painted cows and cows painted only with black stripes

Black paint was not as effective as black and white paint.

I think most vegans agree that factory farming is abusive. I would be interested to hear a case that the paint itself is abusive.

The treatments were black-and-white painted stripes, black painted stripes, and no stripes (all-black body surface). Recorded fly-repelling behaviors were head throw, ear beat, leg stamp, skin twitch, and tail flick. Photo images of the right side of each cow were taken using a commercial digital camera after every observation and biting flies on the body and each leg were counted from the photo images. Here we show that the numbers of biting flies on Japanese Black cows painted with black-and-white stripes were significantly lower than those on non-painted cows and cows painted only with black stripes

The study says that zebra markings repels flies.

It's wild how they just build lying into their platform. Conservatives finally figured out how unpopular their opinions are, so they just decided that they should just tell people they believe differently than they do.

Voting for genocide is much worse.

You're speaking to an incredibly skilled flutist.

Nobody said that a third party would win the presidency, so that's a weird question. The answer is no, but you already knew that.

The tea party is a great example of Republicans listening to their base. Democrats should do the same. I don't see anyone telling the far right they HAVE to vote for Republicans even if they run a liberal candidate. Democrats don't own the votes of the Left either.

Voting for progressives down ballot is not a real way to influence the party, and I don't believe you really think it is. Also, like I said, many progressives do that.

It's just another line from the DNC to tell the progressives to shut up. When Dems start treating progressives like Republicans treat MAGA (worship, adoration, and fear) then you can expect that progressives will vote for Dems at the top of the ticket.

People can vote for the candidates they like locally even if they don't like the top of the ticket. I didn't say anything about down ballot elections.

And you still don't have any answer for my question.

Lengthy incarceration does not prevent crime.

Some jail time, a year long ban from social media, and restitution seem like a fitting punishment.

Maybe you can't speak for what socialists prefer. It's really odd to say it's third party voters' fault your preferred candidate didn't win rather than your candidates fault they did not attract enough voters.

If everyone left of the Overton window promise to vote for the Democrats regardless of what policies the Democrats propose, what prevents the Democrats from moving to the right?