When you're out in the field and your FOSS product suddenly has a glitch, who runs tech support for you?

FOSS is great for some things but this isn't necessarily one of them.

Louder for the people in the back!

Tankies 👏 are 👏 not 👏 true 👏 communists 👏.

God, I hate that this place is infested with tankies. I didn't realize Lemmy.world still federated with Lemmygrad.

"I know exactly what React is, I prefer to use Vue" shows you literally have zero clue what React is.

You don't choose when you visit a website. There's no option that says "render this with Vue." It's handled by the website itself. Lemmy uses Inferno instead of React, for example. You didn't make that choice, and I highly doubt you chose Lemmy because researched that beforehand. And if you did, by going to Lemmy's GitHub page... surprise! GitHub uses React!

I think you need to take a history lesson on the web. I gave multiple examples of tech Facebook has backed, and yet EEE hasn't happened to any of them. There are more open techs that Facebook has contributed code to; a lot of Apache projects, for example. And yet no EEE. Curious. Also I noticed you're avoiding the "EU will come down on Facebook if they get out of line" side of my argument. Also curious.

But I suppose that's not a surprise. It's clear you have no idea how things even work; you probably googled (oh, wait, you probably don't use Google) "React replacement" to find Vue at all. You probably didn't know Vue was created by a Google engineer and Google uses it internally. I suggest you change what web framework you use, if you have that magic button tucked away. Maybe switch to Inferno?

Not to mention you say you never used the Reddit app. I never said anything about the Reddit app. I was talking about the Reddit website. Unless you've never used the Reddit website, either? I trust you're going to say you've never owned anything but a flip phone and do web searches with a phone book next.

You conclude by making a strawman and putting words in my mouth that I never said. You think if I loved corporations I would be here? But you've made multiple factual inaccuracies, you never source anything you say, you just constantly pout like the world is ending and try to force everyone else to do things your way.

But you're right. We do have different viewpoints. I suggest you stop spreading yours as factual, or use that phone book to find sources.

(And for the record, I despise Elon.)

Are you really saying you don't use PayPal? I presume you have a job; your job probably uses Slack (or Teams) at the corporate level. You're never streamed anything? You're not coming from Reddit? You don't use Wikipedia? Or Spotify? Or reCAPTCHA?

I most sincerely doubt that you've never used any of those, all of which run on tech that Facebook built and helps maintain. And I'm not even mentioning the countless small places that use things like React. I'm not joking when I say you literally cannot use the modern web without bumping into a website running React, which was - again - created by Facebook.

Maybe you think the things I mentioned are "apps" - they're not, to be clear. They're frameworks. You generally have no idea you're using them, because it's something that gets setup by the folks building the website. You don't directly download React.js; you go to Discord.gg and Discord will download React to your machine and run it to display Discord. Same thing with Wikipedia - you go to Wikipedia, it uses HHVM to show you the page you want.

If you knew all that already and still think you don't use tech run by Facebook, then your ignorance of how the web works is shocking.

I also think you're struggling with the concept of "Meta doesn't want the EU to come down on them." They will never extend the network in a way that breaks apps, and they can't extinguish it because both of those would make them "gatekeepers" under EU law - the thing they're trying to avoid.

You have to understand that - as much as I dislike capitalism - it is what drives consumers. Linux is the better OS than Windows. That's proven by basically everything running Linux... except consumer PCs, which are usually Macs or Windows. Because Linux doesn't advertise itself like they do, not really.

The way for the fediverse to grow is to get corporations to embrace it. The more corporations that embrace it, the less likely it is that any individual corpo can extend/extinguish (assuming they ignore the EU for some reason). Corporations means regular users, and regular users means normalization, which means a healthy and growing fediverse.

Rather than trying to get a big place to reject this at all cost, maybe you should move to a small place like Beehaw that will more readily accept your worldview.

We actually don't have much in the way of sugar. Usually high fructose corn syrup is the substitute in the US, since the government subsidizes corn production. High fructose corn syrup (obviously) comes from corn, so it's cheaper than sugar due to those government corn subsidies - meaning that not a lot of American food has sugar in it.

Hot take: The old way of searching is outdated.

Bing Chat is rough, but it's the future. You ask it a question - it uses a modified ChatGPT to generate an answer and cites its sources.

About 60% of the time, it's right. About 40% of the time it's wrong. But either way, it cites its sources using links that it found during that search. You can click those sources and see responses from humans, who generally have the correct answer.

I rarely use Google now. Bing Chat is always my first stop for any kind of question or general knowledge query. Give it 5 years - 10 at most - and that'll be the only way to use a search engine. The tech isn't going anywhere, and it's only getting better.

I closed my 500k member subreddit yesterday!

It feels sad, but it needs to happen. We've moved here to Kbin - @Disneyland - and I linked it in the "we're going private" message.

Hopefully we get people to come over. We have half the original mod team and I'm still trying to convince the other half to join up before Kbin closes registration (I'm not sure if you can mod across instances).