[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's the craziest thing about Chinese censorship. They actually censor far less than anyone is aware of. However because they're not transparent about the why, people just start assuming. The wildest part is this is all part of the plan. They want everyone to think the government is overly sensitive so people will start self censoring and the government doesn't have to lift a finger.

So why that show got censored? Who knows.

*Edit: And while what I wrote sounds dystopian, and in many ways it is so I won't go further into how it hurts some people, but it also creates a strange benefit for it's citizens. You know how USA has internet trolls that run around creating havoc? The internet trolls in China all bind together to defend China. Because they think the censorship is in THEIR favor. Let me give you an example. Dolce and Gabbana made what was considered a racist video in China. China itself said nothing about it. The people however, convinced this is something China should censor started massive internet campaigns. Ultimately leading to a gigantic boycott that still affects Dolce and Gabbana to this day. The strange self censorship has in many ways become a badge of pride for many Chinese people.

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Huh? Boy Love movies are incredibly popular in China. Mostly by women for some reason.

https://dearstraightpeople.com/2022/08/17/top-chinese-bl-dramas/

They can't do overtly sexual things, but having to romantic male leads is a hugely popular genre in China.

*Edit: Here's an even bigger list

https://mydramalist.com/list/45GE2qBL

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Well a problem with your argument is that assimilation is not only not unethical, but absolutely necessary for a functioning society. Imagine if you will for a second if our culture accepted racism and bigotry. It would be necessary to force assimilation on people to stop racism and bigotry. Oh wait, that's happening right now. We're literally forcing a culture of acceptance on a culture of racism and bigotry. Is that unethical? Should we stop? Perhaps we should have colored drinking fountains.

The problem you're having with China is:

  1. The government is the one that's doing it, instead of naturally letting companies like Disney shove it down people's throats.

  2. The assimilation is over reaching.

The biggest problem is #2. We don't know what the fuck that means. Should I be allowed to say the N word if there's no other racism or bigotry? If there's no racism and bigotry, is the N word even racist? Yet we enforce word usage today, just words that only have meaning because we give them meaning. yet it's quite over reaching to censor words no? Where's the line drawn?

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually it exactly resembles stagflation. It's one of the reasons I said underemployment and not unemployment. During the 90s, Japan's inflation rate was around 3% and they couldn't get it under 2%. Sound familiar?

https://www.in2013dollars.com/japan/inflation/1990#:~:text=The%20yen%20had%20an%20average%20inflation%20rate%20of,82.953%25%20of%20what%20it%20could%20buy%20back%20then.

The other part was low unemployment, but mostly government jobs that didn't do anything. But it did create historically low unemployment and higher than average labor force participation.

https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/14332/#:~:text=The%20%E2%80%98lost%20decade%E2%80%99%20in%20Japan%20was%20a%20period,when%20it%20reached%20a%20historical%20maximum%20of%205.5%25.

What you are seeing is USA doing exactly what Japan did in the 90s, which is have a target inflation rate of 2% that they can't reach and hiding the high unemployment numbers with underemployment in crappy jobs.

Edit: just look at this rocketing government employment.

https://usafacts.org/reports/2021/government-10-k/part-i/item-1-purpose-and-function-of-our-government-general/employees/#:~:text=As%20of%20the%20dates%20shown%20below%2C%20there%20were,local%20government%20employees%2C%20of%20whom%2023%25%20work%20part-time.

More than doubled in a decade.

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, they can't operate the website in USA so they'll operate it in Canada and Mexico. And yes, that's why they're targeting the stores and not the site, because the only thing they can do is prevent operations inside the country but they cannot block access to it.

Finally, of course technically Apple could only allow EU to do this, but much like their transition to USB-C it would be weird if they did that. ESPECIALLY since having Tik Tok on their phones would be a benefit to them, not a negative.

*Edit: Also I was defining free speech in my initial post, which you seem to agree with. I was not trying to define this abhorrent loophole of a bill that bans but doesn't ban because of 1A Tik Tok. And if you don't understand why the government trying to loophole out of the constitution is bad, well I have no words.

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Sure, I completely agree with everything you have said. And the sad reality of news right now in the English speaking world has a US bias for obvious reasons. My link to a S.Korean paper is still a link to a US ally. They're not as biased as USA itself, but won't escape all influences. It's unfortunate at best.

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I did not claim that. Clearly your reading comprehension skills is in question.

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

What nonsense.

Everything you said is true in English.

If I ask do you like ice cream, a common answer is I like it. You can also say yes. Exactly the same as 喜欢, or 是的. Both are perfectly normal to say.

You are trying to imply the second one is not normal. You are wrong.

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

China doesn't care about TSMC, it never did, that's a US thing. China was always planning to out compete TSMC, that's what made in China 2025 was about. It's the US that panicked and tried to stop China from doing just that.

You could argue USA is trying to start a war by making China want TSMC, but recent events show China is intent on surpassing then still, regardless of what USA wants.

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Exactly, which is similar to what the UN says about the US detaining African Americans.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/2016/01/statement-media-united-nations-working-group-experts-people-african-descent

https://legal.un.org/ilc/sessions/71/pdfs/english/cah_wg_epad.pdf

NOT that China is genociding the Uyghurs.

Now, I'm expecting one of two responses,

  1. WHATABOUTISM RAWR RAWR that we should ignore US crimes because China bad.

  2. Dismissals that China totally arrests more even though we have no data on that.

That said, I do apologize for not making that clear in my original statement. I wasn't trying to say that the UN found no problems at all, only that the problems it found isn't special or unique, but most importantly that it does not constitute genocide that the US is insisting is happening.

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Then why even post? Also, I don't care how people look at me. That said, the comments are all me arguing in one thread. At this point it's over taken my account because of how many people responded.

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

If it sounds vague to you, that's my point. Everyone knows so little about how China actually works that they can't fathom anything besides the strawmen that they put up. Here's a simple question. Xi has to be voted on every 5 years. Who is doing the voting here? I can tell you right now it's not the general population.

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