im assuming you mean nuanced

me not agreeing with you doesnt mean i didnt consider your perspective, and saying 'well surely not all forced labour is slavery' isnt nuance

ok

forced labour is slavery

the system for who is required to participate has practically never been fair and equitable, jury duty is not comparable to military service, and forced labour is slavery

civil jury duty is a really weird example to use anyway, since civil jury trials are practically non existent outside the USA

i mean palestine not being recognised as an independent nation wouldnt mean that the actual place, or leople there are not recognised as existing or being part of a country

but also

The State of Palestine has been accepted as an observer state of the United Nations General Assembly in November 2012.[1][2] As of 2 June 2023, 139 of the 193 United Nations (UN) member states have recognized the State of Palestine. In contrast Israel is recognized by 165.

On 22 November 1974, the PLO was granted non-state observer status, allowing the PLO to participate in all Assembly sessions, as well as in other UN platforms.[34] On 15 December 1988, UN General Assembly Resolution 43/177 acknowledged the Palestinian Declaration of Independence of November 1988 and replaced the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" with "Palestine" in the United Nations system.[35]

• On 23 September 2011, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas submitted an application for membership of Palestine in the United Nations.
• On 29 November 2012, the General Assembly granted Palestine non-member observer state status in United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19.
• On 17 December 2012, UN Chief of Protocol Yeocheol Yoon decided that the constitutional name 'State of Palestine' shall be used by the Secretariat in all official United Nations documents.[36]

if im understanding this correctly, the UN recognises palestine as an independent state to the extent that it actually can but ultimately has no control over whether individual member states actually recognise it as an independent state

i didnt voice any opinion on what the extreme or far left are, so i imagine you either didnt understand my comment or are being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian

no, it is the mainstream view on non-western far-left groups too

not until he forms a coalition

the Netherlands has been on a steady decline, and housing especially has been a massive issue

the netherlands is a good country because we are still benefitting off of our past, but we are not improving

on second thought, this conversation was barely worth having the first time