Oooooo. The old "anyone who disagrees with me is a pedo" argument.

Clever.

Your first sentence is completely wrong.

Your straw man at the end is stupid bad-faith bullshit. The vast majority of teens are no longer 13.

There are other factors, of course, but getting treated like shit, being constantly told you're a moron, having your sex life criminalized, constantly being told you'll get groomed and preyed on because you're an idiot, getting zero respect, and having no legal rights is a major cause of the mental health crisis (which happened simultaneously with the change of paradigm from teens = young adults to teens = large children)

Your subjective opinions on who is "mature" are irrelevant.

If a child is raised by wolves do they ever become "mature"?

"maturity" is purely subjective. there is no way to measure it. what is perceived as mature varies a lot from culture to culture.

Nature makes us adults through a process called puberty. Society cannot change that. It is biological reality.

Do you know how many factors are considered when calculating the Tanner Scale?

It is a complex and comprehensive measure of puberty.

Puberty is what makes us adults.

The fact that you can deny that with a straight face is amazing.

Odd how our bodies reach adult height and brains adult size during puberty :-)

You have cherrypicked your sources. All of neurology points to very fact that brains develop very quickly ages 9-13 and then very slow change from that point on.

but that data doesn't support your bigotry, so you ignore it.

You chose to ignore all of the obvious signs of adulthood. Instead you want to cherry-pick a few insignificant changes in the brain and say "these are the only things that matter for maturity"

Sorry. That's just very stupid.

It would be equally valid to claim that pubic hair, or menstruation, or any other adult trait is the only one that matters.

You think that there's a difference between 26 year olds and 16 year olds. Well, yes, there is. But many 26 year olds can pass for 16 and vice versa. Because they are both adults. 16 year olds cannot pass for 6 year olds or vice versa. 6 year olds are children.

After puberty humans are adults. This is not difficult. Desperately searching for neuological data so you can claim 17 year olds are children is dumb. Stop doing it. Nobody benefits from you supporting bigotry. Stop it.

Human brains are largest around age 13.

They never stop changing. But is "maturing" development or decay? or both?

We all know that teens are adults and that their brains work fine. People are just desperate to justify aiming hateful bigotry at them.

Do you have any substance? and real argument?

or just vacuous insults is enough for you?

Everybody has tons of opinions on what they are mature enough for or not mature enough for

but as a matter of simple fact, they are adults.

"Brains fully developed at 25" is an urban myth. It has been thoroughly debunked.

Slate did an excellent summary of the debunking:

https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/brain-development-25-year-old-mature-myth.html

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The Tanner Scale measures puberty.

Puberty is the line between childhood and adulthood.

It's really that simple.

If you think there is some other better line, then present your case. Casting dopey aspersions on me just makes you look like a fool.