Yeah, but that is the US and my point still stands.

Can also be in Canada and the tax would be excluded

I have become more left orientated after years went by, but I have always been decently progressive. Not every country allows for the full political spectrum sadly so a lot of people have to choose between progressive left and conservative right, but it isn't the only way/

It really depends on what people consider to be loot boxes imo, yes the traditional Tf2 once or the CSGO once which blew this hole thing open yes.

But does it stop with loot goblins in a game like Borderlands? Or does it stop with Magic the Gathering packs (which are required to play sealed/draft).

Actual gambling involves being able to lose your money and get nothing in return, with loot boxes you always get something. The predatory tactics against children need to stop, but there is no reason that an adult is allowed to gamble, but not open loot boxes.

What are you planning? Downing the Dutch songfestival singer Claude? /s

I understand your way of communicating, we are all busy but you acting like you are better doesn't help your point of view. I have said that to more people who are really left leaning like yourself, if you want to help people convert you don't want to "hit" them (be mean or acting like you are better etc) you want to support them and show them why your opinion is better.

I already pay like 80% marginal tax, I get no benefits, I get shafted with every political decision both left and right leaning parties make or are planning to make. Why would I get converted to the left? There is a bigger chance I get converted to the right because that is where my food is since I work in finances.

You dont have a leftist party like what I’m talking about. One that wants to abolish hierarchies between people. One that guarantees food and shelter for everyone, no matter where they are from.

The left parties here generally do want everybody to have the basic necessities, they are generally pretty shortsighted in where to get the money from to fund that.

Your idea of many classes is exactly what actual leftists are trying to get out of your head because it is detrimental to you.

Why? It is fact that you have multiple classes. I see it on a daily basis (I work in finances) and people have different goals in life based on where they sit. There are other ways of looking at it, like working class and not-working class or whatever, but that's nothing more than a different opinion.

People who receive say unemployment benefits arent another class. They simply dont have a job. Dividing people into classes makes them weak and conquerable.

There is way more social security than just unemployment benefits. There is a massive amount of people who (need) to live of social security. Who cannot work because they are suck, or well they are in between jobs or whatever. We need to financially support those people, but it shouldn't be the case that if you start to work, you get less money than when not working. That is currently an issue since social security stops at certain incomes and if often happens that people who barely get out of the social security system get less money. But in the tax system those people are different than the working class who receive none and generally they have a different look at social security because they marginally (taxes they pay plus the loss of social security) pay a lot of taxes (up to 80% or something like that even when earning like 30k a year).

If you have to sell your time for money, you are working class, like all others. Currently, this working class is under attack by the capital. Incomes for the mahority of people is not going up and by dividing us into many classes we can be told this doesnt concern us.

I believe that you are forgetting that a lot of the working class is also the part that is causing stress on the capital or whatever you want to call it. There is an economic flaw in the current system of always wanting more salaries wanting more profit, revenue etc. Most people have savings which banks invest into companies to then generate a profit or people do it together.

This leads to folks driving a ferrari through a part of the city where people starve on the streets. That is a sign of fully deleted empathy to your fellow humans.

Just because somebody owns or drives a Ferrari doesn't mean they don't care for others? We had a client who had to win in advice here how to give money anonymously to a food bank. The dude is pretty dang rich (a couple 100k euro to spend a year), but generally does things like that on a regular basis.

Actual leftists have the sole goal of destroying homelessness and hunger. Thats what we do.

No, that's YOUR opinion on what leftists sole goal is. I have talked to others who's main goal it is to create a better environment for war victims, which in turn causes more people to be here. Most people shouldn't really be homeless in The Netherlands unless their either choose to be homeless (some people do, but they might be sick, idk) or the more realistic case of them falling in between the social security benefits due to the current structure. Which is also the reason why sometimes working more or getting a pay raise will result in less money to spend in a given moment. UBI will fix that, but we need to get that and fund it. Or people who went into shit with the company or just generally don't make a lot of money from their company. Those get barely any support from the government.

In theory, the minimum income somebody should have if they would be homeless is a bit more than 2k a month.

In a lot of countries (like the US f.e.) there are no middle parties so then I can understand that people either not vote or vote for what they feel like is the lesser of two evil. I have the ability to vote on the person I feel like will do the best job in the parties that will do the best job. And even those I am more middle aligned I am also for getting actually rid of hunger/homelessness etc. But I also want people to be able to run a company (not a massive corporation) and be able to make it so they can live of that company. I feel like a lot of parties (and people) just have a general hate against companies unless you specifically mention that it is the local bakery or something.

I also don't believe in you are either left or either right or whatever. People can have opinions and make statements, and those statements can make a person more left leaning or more right leaning. The most important part is that we make sure everybody has basic needs, but also to impact peoples lives in a way that benefits them fairly. And there are different ways of doing it and going into it in an extreme way generally doesn't help.

Remember that we Dutch are pretty direct and don’t overexeccurate that much. So yes we have leftist parties.

Also yes we have a lower, middle and upper class. Basically lower is people who uses social security, middle is people who themselves don’t receive anything anymore and upper is well the rich

I am in NL and in the previous election the left where absolute trash which if their plans would continue they would destroy me.

The middle party was way better for the middle class. And yes that exists. They actually went for a more fair progressive tax system and would be able to pay for universal healthcare

Is that actual rates? Or is the looking at different kind of taxes? I was talking about income tax + social security if you get it.

People with massive company structures can always pay less tax. Or at least less at this point in time. The only way to change rhis if every country works together to fix it

Why 16? why not 14 or 18 if you are that kind of a dick. Like I understand that some people ask their childeren to pay rent once they get a fulltime job. Heck I have heard of parents who didn't need to money from their kids so they put it in a savings account in the kdis name and gave it to them when they needed to buy a house). I also know somebody who was 10k short of buying an appartement, he had to pay rent to help his parents stay afloat.

My main issue with the far left parties in The Netherlands is that they seem to have no understanding of how the tax system works. They would increase social benefits and tax income and houses more. I have seen plans that if they went ahead with it would be taxed even more, but I already get no financial benefit from the government and we make below the median income.

Of course there are more points that they are better at and this post isn't about NL, but still. I believe that there are a lot of people who don't get financial benefit from left parties winning or from right parties winning. Unless they get rich. And then the more conservative option feels closer to home so ofc people vote more for that. That's why you see so many conservative right governments in the west.

At least that's my theory and one of the reasons why I try to vote on competent progressive middle people. At least when possibile.

It has been a bit since I tried it, but things like not having the buttons in the same place is annoying when teacher others. PowerQuery and Microsoft Scripts (what replaced VBA) are some things will probably be missing