@ObviouslyNotBanana @grue it's much better now than when people were using jack incantations and trying to figure a whole host of stuff out, which in most cases was hardware specific and very esoteric, needless to speak of people chasing lowlatency setups, in so many weird directions that afew people actually came up with kernel patches to apparently make the whole thing have 0 xruns. Yeah, absolutely weird, better that this doesn't happen anymore hopefully

@n3cr0 ahh, I guess that's more or less normal hrtf, which any respectable audiogame can replicate

@Chais @n3cr0 how do you replicate that with pipewire anyway? Sure, you can rig up the nodes and all, but are games actually outputting surround nowadays, or how do you benefit from all that work?

@Chee_Koala @SleepyWheel ubuntu studio is not a DAW, it's a music producer focused ubuntu flavour. If you want an open DAW, did you try zrythm?

@XenoStare @ZariZari this doesn't make us evil, nor does it make valve good, they did it because they didn't want to pay for windows licenses for all the steam decks they produce, simple as that, we're collateral benefit. Not using entirely free software isn't evil. Every moment we accuse one another of not being supporting enough, idealistic enough, etc, gives the monopolies an advantage because we're squabeling pointlessly. This is what the pollitical left wing should understand as well.

@XenoStare @ZariZari yes, but some convenience is also good. In this case, being able to play windows games, as most of them are released for that platform, on linux without messing a lot with vanilla wine is a godsend. For now, it's about getting people, game studios, etc, to notice us, even if only through the lense of the steamdeck verified badge. It's only temporary I hope, but even if not, philosophi aside for a moment, it's good that we can have more enjoyment than before.

@mammut @boo agreed, and that's what they rely on, though valve isn't by far the worst offender here

@woelkchen @Bilu47 I recommend that thing would be under the gpl, but to each their own

@falsem @Voytrekk because they always want to be remembered in history for something good, and they're desperately trying to make something that will eventually, through no try of their own, end up both *good* and ethical. Also, they want people to use their stuff more, so that they can eventually make it proprietary or something.

@BloodSlut @ShaunaTheDead hohoho, a good head start! I had to clear some environment variables from time to time as well, especially when it comes to wine stuff misinterpreting some vars I thought are only for some specific programs I use, so it's not the first time such happened to me. Glad it worked for you, also glad you worked out what env var to clear.

@ShaunaTheDead @BloodSlut of course it matters. Environment variables get passed to wine, after which other processes inherit them, simply because they are children of wine. Because wine makes them available to windows calls too, well, you get them in wine processes.

@ShaunaTheDead @BloodSlut what do you mean? you can use different wine prefixes for different applications, so I don't quite get it. Also, outside bottles, I'm not sure you can run wine in flatpak