So you get… support for getting rid of FPTP. But no actual changes because you’re lucky to get 5% of the vote.

I think in reality you get to feel like you’ve washed your hands of it and “did what you could” and then after the election you can say, “hey, I didn’t vote for them” and feel good inside.

In other words, fuck all.

And when those candidates get 5% max of the vote, what does it get you?

How’s that, exactly?

Yes

Thank you. That's more than I get from most "just vote third party" commenters. But then you say,

Instead of people choosing what they think is best for us

The FPTP voting system results in 2 major parties where 3rd parties have no chance of winning. It's not people who've decided to do what they can to perpetuate the 2 party system we have - it's the system itself which needs to change. The people mostly vote logically (with the exception of 3rd party voters) given the current rules of the system.

but have you ever tried to explain RCV to anyone over the age of 50?

Just call it instant runoff then. It's the same thing (as I understand it) and has been in the American lexicon for some time now.

This is a pivot and Lemmy will eat it up because "USA BAD" but is not a response to the topic in the thread which is that third party votes are meaningless.

Let's see if I can get a direct answer: Do you know that the next president of the US will be the Dem or Rep nominee?

The next president will be either the Dem or Rep nominee.

If you believe otherwise I would like to wager a large sum of money.

People do not say “oooh that’s a lot of money - is there a worse doctor who is cheaper?”, instead they say “100% yes I will remortgage my home and sell assets to pay for the cancer treatment my child needs.”

I can't believe how many times I had to make this exact point to dipshits I worked with any time they uttered the term "free market".

What am I going to do in an emergency in the back of an ambulance on the way to the ER? Hey, can you guys pull over for a sec? I need to check if the current ER doc is in network. Fuuuck ooooffff.

I then recount the time I needed a non-emergency procedure (MRI for my back) which affords me plenty of time to shop around. I proceeded to call around to try to get prices (LOL) and then I got my insurance and MRI place on the phone all at once and I STILL couldn't get a solid number for how much it would cost me. Who the fuck else needs to be on the call to get a number???

It is, yes. But it’s also legal to make your own.

Not in my opinion. I keep them for 5+ years usually.

Foldable seem like a gimmick to me.

I would have shared the hell out of this meme on Facebook when I was ~18 years old.

This is to keep people from actually applying, right?