@sweng I simply don't agree that your "common" definition is really the "common" one. Fork is a fork if you created a copy in another repo. Immediately in that moment, even without a new commit. Clearly that's what the "Fork" button does. Not zip, that's not a fork. Nor a private copy, unavailable to anyone else. This fits both the definition from the license, and the TOS, and all instances of "forking" that I've seen before.
@sweng And to your question: I'd say no, downloading as zip is not a fork, either by github TOS (because they say the copy must be in a repo) nor by the license, because they specifically define the term "Modify", and saying that an exact copy is ok, as long as you don't distribute it or "fork" it - which is exactly why "fork" here means the "Fork" button of github.
Do you think that Download ZIP = fork? It sounds to me like it doesn't fit the wikipedia definition either, so what's your point?
@sweng No need, I can instead continue reading the "license" and see the word "or".
> You may not create, maintain, or distribute
They disallow creating copies. Plus other things, but already creating the fork by either definition is disallowed. Not to mention, wikipedia is not a legal document while the TOS is, the double-quotes are used because that's the first time a new term is used, followed by its definition, and that the license is likely using Github's definition, not wikipedia's
@Templa I'm actually using github.com/coder/code-server for that. It's also built only from the open-source parts of vscode, but it is made to run in browser. So I just deploy the docker container with code-server to the more powerful remote machine, and open my browser, where it can be used as PWA so it's almost unrecognizable from a native desktop app.
It all depends on how much you treasure that 2TB of data. If you cannot afford to lose it, then you don't really have any other option. All I'm saying is that self-hosting and backups go hand in hand. Self-hosting without backups is just asking for trouble. But what you are talking about sounds more like 2TB of old photos, that's not really self-hosting. Just get a second 2TB drive and copy it there. This thread started with talks about password managers and their backups - those aren't 2TB.
@ReakDuck so why not work on adding those features to Matrix, instead of reinventing the wheel in another closed platform from scratch? The network effect is by far the most important factor when it comes to any chat app, or building a community. Matrix solves the network effect by being interoperable, having bridges.
@Kushia Not angry, but I would push against an opinion voiced arrogantly even if it was similar to mine. I guess I'm just not high when I'm posting.
@flying_sheep I'm with you on that. They protect their own land and economy and it's only now slowly opening up, they don't want foreign influence. On the other hand, that means they have total power over their citizens. Having prices dictated by government is cool except if you are the producer. And the prices are still going up anyway, and there is a huge risk regarding rice and climate change, that could have a serious effect in 10-20 years. But come visit, there are many great things too.
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@sweng Look I don't have that much time to split hairs about inconsequential things. All I'm saying is that if someone says "Don't do ABCD" and you click a button on the same page that says "Do ABCD" then that's clearly the same ABCD they were talking about, no more action necessary, no outside definitions necessary. Have a good day.