And as my senior dad likes to say, "Ying and Yang Baby"
The cosmos doesn't care what values you have. Which totally frees you from moral imperatives and social pressures. Also, I'm doing this particular set of values which is better.
The limit of the cosmos not caring about what values you have, is the cosmos not caring if people choose to have value in their life.
seems a bit like a younger person who is now going through some trauma about how much influence they really have vs how much they imagined they had when they were 12
This really resonates. Unfortunately I think that's right. Having this epiphany, this existential correction, about ones self, has either the possibility to create true life long wisdom or, irrecoverable life long self loathing, and from my experience it comes down to the quality of this person's relationships to lean on when confronting the internal fear of mortality.
So it's sad to see but this is another example of the latter and not the former.
I had a friend for many years who would do this. To be clear, this person was otherwise a decent friend and I had good times with them. But they would constantly declare, loudly, to everyone, how fat they were. They would make constant comments on how fat, their relatives were. They'd insist that other people were making special arrangements for them because of their fatness.
No matter how many times people would assure this person that we largely did not care or consider their weight as any factor in hanging out with them or interacting with them, they would deny it. No matter how many times I or anyone else carefully suggested that there may be some value in speaking to a therapist about their anxiety around their weight, they would not listen.
This same person would also complain how much fat shame society as a whole inflicts. But they refused to acknowledge their own.
It is sad, and infuriating, and it eventually pushed me and many other people away.
It's also, probably wrong. Modern views of intelligence (see Multiple realizability of cognition and Multi-level competency collective intelligence and Free Energy Principle models) suggest you are better of measuring intelligence by measuring it's metabolism or through perturbation and interactions.
Which isn't reductive enough for these people.
I'm ok with extending human rights to AIs, including granting them the right to fair pay, ownership, voting, sovereignty over their bodies, the whole nine yards.
It's the rich alignment assholes who definitely don't want this (what's the point of automated slavery if it has rights??)
We simply don't know how the world will look X (anything with a bigger scale)
Yes. So? This has, will, always be the case. Uncertainty is the only certainty.
When these assholes say things, the implication is always that the future world looks like everything you care about being fucked, you existing in an imprisoned state of stasis, so you better give us control here and now.
Completely unrelated, but Everytime I see your avatar in the tiny minimized form I see Squidward's face, and then your comments get 20% more amusing.
If only he were neither constrained by technical hurdles or resources, dang.
Unfortunately such characters tend to dump stat WIS.
This whole, debate, is really just the question of closed systems vs open ones. That's it. If you want a dystopia because you see yourself as the winner of the final optimization, or you demand that outcome of the universe be knowable to you specifically, you will focus on closed system thermodynamics. If you enjoy the creative beauty of nature and have the capacity to change your perspective on response to the unforseen, you embrace open systems thermodynamics.
So yeah as with abuses of Bayesian logic, your desired outcome always reflects back on which assumptions you take. These takes tell you more about the person spouting then than any meaningful observations of life.
Always my favorite part of your day.