[-] mlody@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Where speaking about shells, not terminals.

[-] mlody@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

And why are u using openbsd ksh instead bash?

[-] mlody@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

yeah, they're better for embedded devices

[-] mlody@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago
[-] mlody@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

What? ๐Ÿค” Alacritty is terminal.

[-] mlody@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I was asking about that ksh because I love OpenBSD and in OpenBSD it's default shell. As I like to experiment with different operating systems, not only Linux I think that much better for me would be to learn POSIX shell. What's difference between POSIX shell and bash by the way?

[-] mlody@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I had contact with Alpine on one server. It's great OS but I don't think it's great choice not for desktop. I'm using Gentoo and it gives me much more capabilities ;) Gentoo can't work with busybox as GNU coreutils are hard dependency. musl is supported by Gentoo but as I heard there's a lot of issues with it

[-] mlody@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Install Linux

[-] mlody@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I don't want to remove bash, that's not my point. It's hard dependency for my system. Now I understand that dash sucks as interactive shell. Maybe I'll try fish as interactive shell just to check what it is, cause it's popular at the moment. But as I'm forced to have bash installed and it's great for interactive shell usage I will stick with it :)

[-] mlody@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Web browser are the type of software which I hate the most. They're main reason why a lot of personal computers aren't usable anymore. Also browsing web through terminal is impossible, that's another point for me to hate them ๐Ÿคฃ Of course I'm forced to use them but when I can I'm choosing alternatives like Gemini or Gopher and native apps. If I could I will not leaving terminal but as I need it for few GUI apps I'm using DWM ๐Ÿ˜Š I'm planning also to learn how to compile my own kernel.

It's not about disk space but learning, minimalism (which I love), better security and efficient resource usage.

I don't care how many resources is used by program but how efficient. People are telling me that they see in their resource monitors that they systems are using a lot of RAM, mainly gamers who have 64 GB of ram and complain about 20 GB in usage by Windows. But this why they have RAM, to use it! If they don't need it system should allocate RAM in proper way to make computer faster. Of course Windows is not good example of efficient resource allocating ๐Ÿ˜‚ but I want to make my point more clear. It's not about removing critical features to just make it run, but making my system suited for my needs and efficient as much it's possible. So removing man pages is not related to my case as I'm using them :)

I like to tinker and I'm learning about computers that way. I ask questions and looking for methods to optimize every part of my systems. They don't have to be the best optimized and if will not have that many time as I have to learn I wouldn't worry too much about it and just work on computer. I'm just aware that always we can do something better.

[-] mlody@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That's why I'm asking that question :) A lot of discussions are on Reddit and I hate Reddit so to avoid using it I'm asking here.

[-] mlody@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

RAM doesn't matter for me. Smaller code base is reducing attack surface for sure.

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Recently I got really interested in debloating and hardening my operating systems, cause I'm heavily inspired by Unix and "worse is better" philosophy. As I heard bash is heavy and we have much more lightweight and faster alternatives like these mentioned in title. They must be great alternative for scripting and interpreting but is there any reason to use them on my machines as interactive shell? Anyone are using them? Also is it worth to learn them as bash is standard IT industry?

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