@k4r4b3y @ShadowRebel dendrite does not solve this join-delay issue when joining rooms on remote servers, particularly rooms hosted at all on matrix.org (i.e. the DAG involves matrix.org in some way), because the weakest link is the bottleneck in the matrix protocol

@k4r4b3y @ShadowRebel
>after a few minutes
this should honestly never be acceptable for an instant-messaging platform

@ShadowRebel *multiple* implementations have caused client crashes in the past, and implementing otr is abysmal, havent seen this from omemo

@ShadowRebel
>OTR encryption from pidgin which provides an alternative for hardcore cypherpunks
cryptoanarchist here we moved on from otr ages ago because the parser is a fucking nightmare