Ah ok, as I said, "everything that is left wing is good and paradise. Everything right wing is pure evil".

In a left-wing state the state always holds the power... So once that state becomes corrupted and uses that power to keep all workers equally poor, then it is suddenly right wing? Show me what were the capitalist principles in the Soviet Union? Was there a free market, private incentive, private property, competition, minimal state intervention, entrepreneurship, individual rights and freedoms? NOOO THERE WEREN'T. It wasn't a right-wing state.

You guys are insane. Lemmy became an echo chamber for your delusions. It's really sad to see people this radicalized.

A dictator is a dictator, who the fuck cares if they are right or left wing? A racist is a racist. A murderer is a murderer. They can be found in any side of the political spectrum, but you're too biased to believe the left can be corrupted... You are too blinded by what is right and what is left and are totally unable to see there can be combinations of ideologies.

You say dictators are right wing because they don't follow some left-wing principles? Then I could argue that all dictators are left-wing because by definition the right strives to minimize government controls, and a dictatorship is authoritarian, which goes against right-wing policies... But I'm done arguing. This is my last Lemmy comment. You are so blinded by the left vs right argument you can't see beyond that. This degree of fanatism can't be healthy, I don't want to become radicalized like you people. This self imposed blindness is sad and pathetic. Good bye.

It is. Just like fascism, these are terms associated with the right-wing. But that's not my point... My point is that whatever affiliation the right or left had in the past does not necessarily represent the current affiliations. The fact that the US right-wing is turning to white supremacy is unrelated to Nazis being right wing. That is just a reflection of their systemic racism.

What I'm saying is that it is irrelevant if Republicans are trying to associate the left with Nazis, because even if such association existed, it is not a valid argument to say that the left today is ruled by Nazis, or that the right can't behave like Nazis. That's just a fallacy, the same fallacy that they use to point out that voting left will turn us into North Korea or an authoritarian left-wing dictatorship.

I can't believe people aren't getting this. It's like they don't understand I'm actually pro-left with this argument, somehow they think I'm protecting Nazis and Republicans because I'm not shouting "REPUBLICANS BAD!"

Going back and pointing out how Nazis were right-wing is something that will bite the left in the ass because there are plenty of examples of the left turning into shit too. So instead of comparing with past examples, just analyze their current positions. Is the right currently behaving like Nazis? Yes. Do you need WWII Nazis to be right wing for this to be a fact? No. So even if they convince people that Nazis were left wing, how does that disprove that RIGHT NOW they are the racists and white supremacists?

I'm just saying, don't play their games.

Dafuq, North Korea is left wing. OK, so was the Soviet Union also right wing when they marginalized minorities through Russification?

"if it is bad, it is right-wing".

And yes, my whole point is that the fact North Korea has a left-wing dictatorship doesn't mean that all left-wing parties will become dictatorships. You finally got my point, damn, it took you so long.

They are behaving like Nazis regardless of if the Nazis were right-wing or left-wing. Nazi behavior can happen in the left or the right. As I already said, discrimination, murder, superiority complex, racism and exploration has also happened in left-wing systems.

Accurate history doesn't matter in this context because it is being used as a fallacy. The fact that the Nazis were right wing doesn't make the right affiliated with Nazis. The same way leftist dictators don't make the left affiliated with dictators.

The point of Republicans is that the left-wing is Nazi because the Nazis were left wing. That's the fallacy. And instead of brushing that off as a fallacy, you're falling victim to their games.

Well, the re-builders would be breaking the law now that the source code isn't available for non-paying customers. They weren't breaking the law before.

So, do you expect every company to release the source code of their products just because they used a FOSS web framework or a FOSS programming language like Python? Or by the same logic, for companies to release the source code of their products if their developers use Linux in their development machines? Or if they use Linux to deploy their applications in the cloud? That's such an unreasonable position.

Yeha, that's why I said the worst aggressors are the companies, but this doesn't mean that immigrants are free of guilt.

First, they are immigrating illegally, which isn't right. There's a lot of honest immigrants patiently waiting to be accepted, and these guys just say "fuck it" and break all the rules.

Second, they know they'll accept a low paying job as soon as they get their first offer. The money they are getting is a lot of money back home. It isn't a bad deal for them. After a few years they can go back home and be wealthy, even medium-high class. So it's not like they are in a bad deal.

Just because there is a big aggressor, doesn't mean there is a single aggressor.