You're not wrong, but this still isn't one.
Well, it doesn't really, except that you mentioned the US trade ban, which brings the reason for the US trade ban into the topic at least tangentially.
It's just an acknowledgement of one aspect of the two nations education systems
Wow. Just had to be a dick, didn't you? Well, big man, hope you have a nice day.
I don't think anyone was suggesting NixOS, just the Nix package manager and repository, which will work on any distro. There's still a bit of a learning curve, but it's not as steep.
I mean, not ban, but certainly restrict.
Honestly I promise you're better off using a better organization system than dump it on the desktop... But I can totally solve that problem for you!
It's a little tough to explain, but what you're looking for is a different Desktop Environment. Fedora Workstation uses Gnome, which doesn't do desktop icons by default. I love it, but it's not for everyone.
Fortunately, this is Linux so you have a choice!
If you want to stick with Fedora, use the KDE or Cinnamon spin. Check the Fedora Spins page:
https://fedoraproject.org/spins/
KDE is super customizable and modern, with lots of fun stuff you can do with the desktop, while Cinnamon is a bit less flexible but more familiar for folks coming from Windows. Either way, you can clutter up your desktop to your heart's content 😁.
Either way, it's still Fedora underneath.
If you really want to try something not Fedora, then you could go Linux Mint if you like the way Cinnamon looks; they invented that Desktop Environment, and make what might be the most beginner friendly Linux Distro:
If you'd rather KDE and want something. other than Fedora, then I can suggest KDE Neon. It's actually handled by the KDE project itself:
Hope that helps, and if you have any more questions, I'll help if I can.
It depends on whether were talking about Wasps the insects or WASPs the acronym.
Either way not a fan, but I guess the insects are alright as long as they're not in my house.
This is what I was going to say. It's how I installed Arch, and it's just a really good way to learn about a linux system in general, in addition to the specifics of Arch.
Arch's official Wiki and general documentation are second to none. I don't generally use Arch anymore, but I keep the documentation bookmarked, and the forums are one of my first stops when I'm trying to solve a problem, usually before whatever distro I'm working on.
Seriously, OP - use the Arch Wiki, set up Arch the Arch way, and lookup anything you don't understand from the docs. It's the best way to do what you're trying to do. Nothing else comes close.
I don't mean to be a jerk, but this has nothing to do with what OP asked. You're talking about all immutable systems, and OP isn't asking about those.
Also, I feel like I need to defend OoenSuse here a little. Their KDE support on Tumbleweed is excellent, and has a long track record of being good. The brand-new OpenSuse Kalpa - the Plasma desktop they're building from MicroOS - is a brand new project that's in beta.
Kinoite is great, I'm sure. But it's not what this thread is about.
an app launcher. Literally every other desktop on the planet has one, how this isn't considered basic functionality is beyond me. Give your grandparents a vanilla GNOME computer and tell them to get to Facebook and you will see how necessary this is. Default should be dash-to-dock with intelligent autohide so you only see it when you need it. This would fulfill GNOME's hangups about it while also improving usability, so I fail to see a downside.
Gnome has one. You tap the super key for the dock, then again for the full app list. I see thiscoomplaint all the time, and it confuses me every time.
"I don't like the default app launcher" or "I'd prefer an always visible dock" fine, but Gnome doesn't have one? What?
tray icons. GNOME treats background processes like bugs to be squashed. Let's just get real here for a second: sometimes you want programs to run in the background and sometimes you want to be able to see what they are doing in real time. I want my email clients to tell me when I get emails, I wan't my Nextcloud to tell me when there are sync issues, and I want Discord to tell me if I get DMs. This should be considered basic functionality.
I both agree and disagree with this. Gnome is trying to make a unified system for this sort of thing, and that's admirable, but until it works, we kinda need a notification tray.
I more or less agree with the sentiment, which is why I disable my adblock on sites I use regularly, with 3 exceptions:
- If the ads are egregious, adblock stays on. Half- page content blocking ads stay blocked. Auto playing noisy video ads stay blocked. You get the idea.
- If they have tracking JavaScript that isn't blocked by regular built browser built in blocking stuff then my ad block stays on. They can have my data or they can throw ads at me. Not both.
- Any site that I am paying for the ad block stays on. If I'm paying for your service, you don't get to advertise at me and you don't get to throw a bunch of tracking crap at me.
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Many of the major distros with graphical installers would work. Fedora, Ubuntu, Endeavor, OpenSuse… it's really the Desktop Environment and the default set of apps that's going to make the difference for you, since that's what determines how you interact with the computer on a day to day basis.
A lot of folks feel more comfortable with an interface like their old OS and simple graphical tools. If that's what you're after, it's hard to beat Mint with its default Cinnamon desktop. It is very Windows-like in its workflow except just better. It's got great gui system tools, a good community, and it's super easy to install.
If that's what you're after - easy to install and just daily drive to browse the web and use google docs - then stop reading now. Mint is my recommendation. If you're wanting to dive in and learn more about Linux along the way, keep reading!
I don't agree with the "acts like my old desktop" philosophy, personally. I think it tends to make people expect the system to work like their old OS, and everything is different under the hood. It's like putting a car's dashboard and steering wheel into a tank. The vehicles are similar in a lot of ways, but they're fundamentally different.
So, as a constant reminder that you're using something fundamentally different from Windows, a Desktop Environment like Gnome or KDE is a better choice.
Gnome is very different from the Windows workflow. I'm told it takes people a bit to adjust to it, but I wouldn't know. For me, Gnome is the most intuitive DE I've ever used. I had the basics down in seconds. I recommend Fedora Workstation if you want to try it out. It's up to date, has a great set of default apps, and has a strong community. I use Fedora, and I'm very happy with it.
KDE can work like Windows, if that's what you're after... but it can also work nearly any way you want it to because it's so amazingly flexible that it'll knock your socks off. The number of settings and things you can tweak, rearrange, and modify to your liking can be a bit overwhelming, but it can also be fun. I've spent literal hours having fun tweaking my desktop (although I always end up with something that imitates the Gnome workflow lol). It does a great job showing you how adaptable Linux can be, and how it's all about your choices as a user. I love it, even if it's not my DE of choice. If that sounds like your kind of fun, then KDE Neon or Fedora's KDE spin ate worth a look.>