I convinced my partner to play it recently and the way I knew she'd finished it was that I could hear sniffling from the desk behind me.

Yeah but how are the cops supposed to access our data without a warrant or any form of notice?

The no campaign is run by pretty seasoned wreckers.

Just now you haven't answered the queries he had repeatedly made, you've shot them down.

The same line used by climate change deniers for ages, while they disingenuously repeated the same arguments that had been debunked or were nonsense.

$387 billion cost

You could get a whole new fleet of nuclear subs for that!

I think of it less as a question and more of an admission

This may answer that question:

https://www.rmit.edu.au/news/factlab-meta/secret-list-of-voice-plans-a-concoction

I'm still not sure I get Lidia's arguments tbh. I agree with her on treaty and I honestly don't know why (other than being a pack of racists) we haven't implemented the recommendation of the royal commission into indigenous deaths in custody, I'm just not sure that voting the voice down is a good move or would even help get those things done. It could make Australia wake up to its past by giving it a shock, but just (maybe more) likely the referendum failing will empower racists.

Literally every one of my indigenous friends and colleagues that I've spoken to are voting no,

Did you forget what you wrote?

2 points:

1. Anyone can say they have indigenous friends or have spoken to indigenous people. In fact Peter Dutton has been doing that this whole time. This is a largely anonymous forum so there's no reason to believe anyone who says "ah yeah I spoke to a guy."
2. We have polling on indigenous peoples opinions on the voice. The people we surround ourselves with or we encounter in our daily lives are an insignificant sample size and subject to selection bias.

I can understand the need for some secrecy, since we still have to deal with other countries etc... But otherwise I agree, you should have to have a pretty good reason for censoring government reports entirely.

Tbh dude this thread is going to be a shitshow.

It would be good if scientists stopped publishing in closed access journals

The thing is, publishing your article as open access generally requires you as the author to pay upwards of $2k USD. I think I've seen some that are around 4k.

That's just it though, they know it's divisive, that's the point. They don't care if they're lying they just hope their lies spread to enough people.

Indigenous issues are pretty complex imo, so writing people off who are getting confused by the flood of BS seems like a good way of losing the referendum.