Also, billing David Gerard as "the Forrest Gump of the internet" in a tweet and not mentioning that you can plausibly blame him for the whole Musk X Grimes collab is a true fumble

I have decided to fossick in this particular guano mine. Let’s see here… “10 Cruxes of Artificial Sentience.” Hmm, could this be 10 necessary criteria that must be satisfied for something “Artificial” to have “Sentience?” Let’s find out!

I have thought a decent amount about the hard problem of consciousness

Wow! And I’m sure we’re about to hear about how this one has solved it.

Ok let’s gloss over these ten cruxes… hmm. Ok so they aren’t criteria for determining sentience, just ten concerns this guy has come up with in the event that AI achieves sentience. Crux-ness indeterminate, but unlikely to be cruxes, based on my bias that EA people don't word good.

1. If a focus on artificial welfare detracts from alignment enough … [it would be] highly net negative… this [could open] up an avenue for slowing down AI

Ah yes, the urge to align AI vs. the urge to appease our AI overlords. We’ve all been there, buddy.

2. Artificial welfare could be the most important cause and may be something like animal welfare multiplied by longtermism

I’ve always thought that if you take the tensor product of PETA and the entire transcript of the sequences, you get EA.

most or… all future minds may be artificial… If they are not sentient this would be a catastrophe

Lol no. We wouldn’t need to care.

If they are sentient and … suffering … this would be a suffering catastrophe

lol

If they are sentient and prioritize their own happiness and wellbeing this could actually quite good

also lol

maybe TBC, there's 8 more "cruxes"

At risk of making points for the other side, AI Welfare Debate Week is something GLaDOS would come up with as a ploy for more bodies to experiment with.

I mean yes this is all very off the rails fascist but I can do better.

• bribe the government for nuclear bombs and detonate them in volcanoes to trigger The Big One and separate the bay area from america
• Install high powered laser to roof of salesforce that sweeps the bay
• clone elon musk

I have plenty more where that came from. Money please, m4s a8n

The problem with this type of criticism is that for the most part it’s usually pretty lazy. If you just want to make people laugh, there’s no need to be charitable or high-effort. The average r/sneerclub post consisted of finding something seemingly absurd or offensive said by a rationalist and then mocking it. The resulting threads are obviously biased and not epistemically rigorous. Like, Wytham abbey was technically a manor house, but “EA gets a castle” is objectively a funnier meme. There are sometimes good arguments in there (I think my old sneerclub posts weren’t terrible), but they’re not the point of the community, and you shouldn’t expect them to be common.

@titotal@awful.systems hey I spend whole minutes crafting sneers, how dare ya call me lazy!

I have a tremendously large skull (like XXL hats) - maybe that's why I can still do some basic math after the testosterone brain poison during puberty?

Pretty sure this flies in the face of traditional rat phrenology.

start slamming testosterone and amphetamines to get your workaholicism, betterThanEveryone complex, and drive for power

Ah yeah all things that are good that you should aspire to, and within this pokemon-esque understanding of drugs and human physiology, things you just automagically gain from pills

Then from another comment:

Seems it is easier / more streamlined / more googlable now for a teenage male to get testosterone blockers than testosterone. Latter is very frowned upon — I guess because it is cheating in sports. Try googling eg "get testosterone prescription high school reddit -trans -ftm". The results are exclusively people shaming the cheaters. Whereas of course googling "get testosterone blockers high school reddit" gives tons of love & support & practical advice.

Hey dawg are you pro-T-blocking or not? First you say I should delay my puberty until I’m 22, now you start JAQing off about how trans people have it too easy. Which is it?

Females however retain easy access to hormones via birth control.

How did I not see this comment worded in this specific way coming

rationalist musical cannon

Aw man, who let them tech up to musical cannons? Now I need theatrical cavalry

Post reads like he tried the penis implants mentioned in the stubsack and now has regrets

There’s fuck around and find out, and then there’s fuck around, find out, and learn nothing.

Every server is sacred.

For those that don’t want to look it up and are ok with a potentially incomplete version:

Apparently it’s when someone (in PUA context, a woman) says, does, or demands something disingenuously to see how you react to it. My guess is that there are PUA doctrines about how to react and detect this sort of thing.

As is a PUA framed thing, it’s probably a way for someone to dismiss any boundary setting behaviour as gaslighting, which is ofc fucked.

It's gotta be a rule that nothing earns you more clout with internet weirdos than defending pedophiles/ephlehebbleleoflphiles