That’s reasonable, and especially achievable if you don’t use chatbots or digital assistants!

Honestly, a couple hours over some beers might be the only way.

Link to previous thread: https://awful.systems/post/3420407

edit: ok just noticed that said thread is pinned in sneerclub, take that as you will.

Happend quite a few times with the “skeptic” yt people in the yt’er to alt right funnel/pipeline from a decade ago. (A few of these people have really lost the plot now

I would love a separate thread on this, more generally a “late 2000s/early 2010s skeptic ytbuers, where are they now”?. The only example (sorta*) I have is thunderf00t, whose yt career track is: anti-christianity, anti-anita sarkeesian, and now anti musk.

*he is not alt right, at least by any mainstream definition of alt-right, afaict.

The article image is defs AI generated, and the giveaway is of course *drumroll* the fucking hands

also the caption feels wrong. guy on the right looks nothing like musk, it was probably thiel in the prompt.

I am not much of a Reddit muckraker. I checked out the posts from the mods I didn't recognise. The longtime mod Son_of_Sophroniscus appears to now be alt-right? Other than that, I still can't make heads or tails of any of it.

Twice the sneer, double the… club?

Loving the bioshock/rapture comp in the yt comments.

Could it be that Yud read about Bombadil, thought, “man it’s a good thing this dude is with the good guys, or middle earth would be screwed” and then decided to spin that into a technocult about AI?

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if this were the case – the whole schtick of a lot of these people is “worrying about increasing the number of future possibly-existing humans, even at the cost of the suffering of actually-existing humans”, so being anti-abortion honestly seems not too far out of their wheelhouse?

Same energy as those score-maximising Tetris AIs that taught themselves to stack blocks to the kill line and pause.

Like I think in the EAverse you can just kinda go “well this makes people have less kids which means less QALYs therefore we all know it’s obviously bad and I don’t really need to justify it.” (with bonus internet contrarian points if you are justifying some terrible thing using your abstract math, because that means you’re Highly Decoupled and Very Smart.) See the quote elsewhere in this thread about the guy defending child marriage for similar reasons.

Ughhh yeah that sounds about right.

The prequel to this story:

It’s just thousands of underpaid biology students classifying dna sequences, I guess.

My own self doubt asks: do rationalists feel shame, though?